Should ANY books be banned in schools?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    There's been alot of debate surrounding various Republican States banning certain books. The Democrat/liberal response has generally been that this is terrible and that books should not be banned. So does this mean that the Democrat/liberal position is that literally no books should be banned in schools? Or is it just that they don't think that the particular books which have been banned, should have been banned, but they would be open to banning others?
     
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    We might want to think twice about leaving around this one....

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    just saying, ya know?
     
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    Why? Wheres a kid gonna get enough fissible material to reach critical mass? You need ~50kg of enriched uranium, which is i dunno how many tons of uranium ore... Does the book come with that? Also need a lot of high explosives...
     
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    As a conservative I believe we should ban all books that do not fit my world view. All books that do fit my world view should be mandatory reading.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    You don't think that the book is a joke and not actually a real book?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    So clearly you are a lib. So can you not give a genuine reply?
     
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    I dunno, I havnt read it. But how to build nukes isnt exactly secret information. Its not complicated- gather enough fissible material to reach critical mass and compress it. Colleges used to have engineering and physics students build a functional nuke (with harmless substitutions for the fissible material and explosives, obviously) as a final project. The first Russian nukes were just packs of uranium loaded into sealed-up cannon barrels packed with TNT. The hard part of making nukes is getting large amounts of uranium and refining fissible material from nonfissible uranium. That requires massive industrial support that makes it extremely difficult for a nation to accomplish in secret and basically impossible for an individual to accomplish at all. The 'how to' of actually building the nuke is relatively easy.
     
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    So only those that agree with you can give a genuine reply...

    Books should not be banned for religious or political content. Books should not be banned for subject matter if they are factual and presentd in a discrete way.
    My question would be who decides what is appropriate? Educators, a majority of parents or people with a political agenda? What will be the standards by which books will be judged and who will decide those standards.
    I am concerned that even this is sold as parents rights a majority of the people seeking to have books remove do not have students in the school and many don't even live in the community where the books are being reviewed.
     
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    I don't agree with banning books, but I do believe in age appropriate books. They are not the same thing.
     
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    I don't think we need strap on blowjob books for 8 year olds to read. I don't think we need penthouse, playboy, and other smut either. Probably shouldn't have the bible in public schools as well unless you have Koran and other religious text with it.
     
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    Bingo - it's just a fear mongering tactic to call it book banning. Parents are still free to buy the book and give it to their kids once they are home if they truly want to.
     
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    Growing up in a household with two parents that were involved with the arts, there were plenty of books with nudes and such not. Usually kept on high shelves so curious little minds didn't get into them and giggle over the pictures.

    As us kids grew up, the shelves became accessible... and the books were used for references. Appropriate 'dialogue' at the appropriate time.
     
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    How about we use common sense? Maybe we don't have books in ELEMENTARY school libraries that are basically oral sex manuals. I mean, call it crazy, but just a thought. What do ya think?
     
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    You all appear to believe that teachers and librarians are pushing "blowjob books for 8 year olds to read. (and)bI don't think we need penthouse, playboy, and other smut either." Do you have any examples where this is happening. My guess that the things that kids can get on the internet is far worse from what they find on school shelves. Also I would ask why is this not the problem of local authorities. They have always handled it in the past. All of you can go to your child's school and point out improper books for the school board to review. Have any of you done that in your child's school or your local library? Without doing that how do you know what is there?
     
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    I consider myself a liberal, and that is my stance. Mein Kamph for example should be kept at the local library, because it is a historically relevant book.

    The bible, Quran, Vedas, and other religious texts too, same reason. Conservative oriented books as well as liberal oriented ones should not be banned.

    My only limit would be manuals on how to build bombs, etc.

    That's a truly liberal perspective, but there certainly are plenty on the left who are anti-liberal and who claim to be progressive who would like to ban a lot.
     
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    Parents ban all kinds of things from their kids. The law bans some things from kids. I see no reason why some books should not be banned from school kids. Who decides what books should be banned -- let the PTA for each school decide if a book should be banned.
     
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    Books haven't been banned. They just been taken out of school libraries, typically elementary school libraries because of their explicit content.
     
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    I think you are right on. Of course there are books that should be banned. It's just the left and the right would choose to ban some different books. No different from banning certain internet sites which I think every school does.
     
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    Is that your own creation? I couldn't find it on Google when searching to confirm that it's a real book! I was 99.9% sure that it wasn't.
     
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    I think that the mention of "fissile starter kit" kind of gives it away!
     
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    Was the country founded on Islamic principles?
     
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    Did you miss where I specified books in "schools?"
     
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    No.
     
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    So apparently some friend of yours, at one time, looked into it?
     
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    But where did the picture you just painted, ever exist, in a school?
     

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