Shutguns and revolvers

Well pistols are pistols and revolvers are revolvers unless you're liberal then all handguns are called a pistol and all ammunition magazines are called clips.

Most revolvers are natural aim or natural pointing handgun.

Where as most pistols are not natural pointing handguns.

There are exceptions like the Luger P-08 pistol that is a natural aiming pistol.

Right around 4:45 on the declassified video.


If you watch the entire training film it's only 16:36 minutes long, soldiers were trained going into combat only armed with a handgun.

I myself prefer a rifle and consider the handgun as sniper bait and a last resort weapon when your in really deep sh!t.

 

My point exactly. Glad to see you really were not actually confusing revolvers and pistols just being a bit befuddled in searching for a war using only shotguns and revolvers since your example was an action using only pistols and revolvers.

 

They say the purpose of the pistol was to fight your way to the rifle you never should have put down in the first place!

When I was in the Border Patrol I always checked out my M4 at the beginning of the shift and kept it close to hand whenever I had to dismount the vehicle.

 

The U.S. fought Wars against Indians / Native Amricans, with Revolvers and Shotguns, including lever action rifles.

Single action Revolvers were used in many Battles in Mexico, and the Philippines against the Morros.

 

Yeah well, as a LEO, Constable, and in other Countries, a Sidearm was normally carried holstered and concealed under a Dress Suit jacket.

I can remember scant occasions where I carried an unconcealed long arm as an M-16 etc.... Except a few insurrections where a City was burned by rioters.

Most times those long arms were locked in an official vehicle and out of reach, when I needed them most.

My sidearm was always in my holster under my jacket in most cases.

 

Other than using fewer components, tighter tolerances, and better qualities of steel, shotguns and revolvers have changed very little since they were made to use self-contained cartridges. The same standard applies for the ammunition, all loaded to similar chamber pressures to avoid damage or otherwise destructive of antique firearms built to lesser standards of metallurgy.

 

Can it be explained just what a "high caliber handgun" amounts to in real world terms?

 

Handguns of calibers other than .22 LR ?

 

More than .32 is high caliber. Evidence that the deadliness of firearms has increased:

"RESULTS:
Results are tabulated as mean +/- standard error bullet caliber (millimeters) over time. Linear regression reveals r = 0.944, p<0.0001. Data obtained from autopsy reports are not tabulated here, but chi2 for trend reveals a statistically significant increase in the proportion of large caliber and decrease in proportion of small-caliber bullets (p<0.001).

"CONCLUSION:
These data unveil an ominous trend toward the use of larger-caliber firearms in accidents, homicides, and suicides."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10088852

 

More than .32 caliber is
high caliber ?

That is a distinct falsehood.

Your lack of knowledge of ballistics is apparent.

.32 S&W short, .32 S&W long, .32 acp, .32 Magnum to name a few are NOT
high caliber !

No dedicated handgun round, well into the .44 Magnum, is a high caliber, as handgun rounds are relatively ineffective when compared to standard rifle ammunition.

Even rifle ammunition is not so called "high caliber", considering the intermediate calibers up to .30-30, .30-06, .308 etc
Into the belted Magnums and Nitro Express cartridges for speciality big game hunting.

Suicide a trend ?
Is Suicide habit forming ?

 

If people were shot

 

With non lethal rubber projectiles ?
With Simunitions ?
With Blank ammunition ?
With a Super Soaker water gun ?

With a Star Trek Phaser ?

When the next Generation of hand weapons renders conventional cartridge firing guns obsolete,
what of gun control then ?

When technology surpasses legislation, and Elroy splits atoms in his room, and and cold fusion is a home brew project, and hand held weapons can disintegrate a person,

Who mourns Adonis then ?
Who ?

 

Nothing like ignorance.
High caliber when I was young was the relative measure character of a person, usually applied to man.
It, like the labeling of some scary weapons as assault weapons, is a loaded manufactured label mean to demonize certain weapons in the minds of those ignorant of firearms, when expedient by liberals... the use of those terms betrays ignorance.
I hunted deer for years with a .50 cal rifle I made, took a lot of deer, never wounded one. In my state, there is a minimum cal allowed for deer hunting and the .223/5.56, the scariest round to libs, wasn’t one. Was the gun I hunted with a high caliber?

 

The radical left who became liberals and progressives adopted cultural-marxism during the early 1970's that included revisionist history and changing the definition and meaning of words to further a radical leftist political agenda.

Some times they just make up words to further a leftist political agenda.

 

1. A true literary device.

 

Yep a literary device for propagating dishonesty.

 

I wish to one day, share a few Ales and talk of these and other things.

" The time has come,' the Walrus said,
To talk of many things:
Of shoes — and ships — and sealing-wax —
Of cabbages — and kings —
And why the sea is boiling hot —
And whether pigs have wings.'"

 

Perhaps such would be regarded as having credibility, if not for the fact that the .38 Special, which was the caliber of the handgun in question, was created back in the year of 1898. That makes it one hundred and twenty years old. And in that time, it has done very little to change much beyond that, as it is still loaded to the same pressure and velocities of the original ammunition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38_Special

 

Oooh ! .38 Special is Zeee High Calibre !
Oh My !

 

The discussion of calibers and lethality is less important then other considerations. One is shot placement which is directly dependent upon the user. A .38 or even a .22 revolver can be extremely leathal in the hands of a determined and physically capable person who has little concerned for his own safety and whose goal is to kill anyone and often as many as possible and for no “reason.”

Another and perhaps the MOST IMPORTANT factor in a weapon being lethal is....AVAILABILITY of firearms which provides opportunity and increased lethality. A gun isn’t as lethal if it’s harder to get by a person to intending to do harm. I don’t mind people like myself and others including most of the people here with firearms and who carry one daily, who have had decades of experience, been trained and licensed and have a history of good behavior. But the NRA supports any gun being available any time, for any reason to absolutely anyone; all in the name of profit. Many of You guys support that “reasoning.”

It’s really strange to hear many of you who are in the same boat as I who argue for anyone else to have one available as easily as they are which makes the world less safe for every one....even for those who are legitimately armed. You’re more likely to be shot carrying a gun, even if you are a qualified gun owner then someone who never had one. That statistic alone should give a reasonable person pause with your line of reasoning.

 

Is that you Der Fuhere Hogg ?

 

No, Boss Hogg.

 

You are a great Fiction Writer.

You can earn much money, if you are not already engaged in writing popular fiction stories.

 

“Hearing” you guys discuss lethality and calibers is like listening to prekindergarten kids talk about which crayons they prefer.

 

It's the logical response to the BS Galileo posted.