Shutguns and revolvers

Has this response been sanctioned by the Russian sponsored NRA ?

 

I don't belong to the NRA. I do understand science, though. Galileo does not.

 

You have it backwards, those that understand nothing about firearms sound like children talking about sex, when I was in the fifth grade, children told wild stories about what they saw peeking in at their parents bedroom.

 

More lies.

 

Lethality of a weapon has a lot to do with shot placement. To look it solely in terms of calibers without at least a passing reference to the other attributes of “smaller” caliber weapons is really juvenile and shows a lack of understanding of the basics of firearms.

 

Ha ha
You’ll find out that Russia, the quinticential police state, owns your president and the NRA. I guess you completely shut your ears everytime he admits he’s Putin’s lackey and the NRA is engaged in Russian money laundering. It’s a GOP disgrace.

 

Btw, everytime someone responds with juvenile NRA sanctioned tripe, they lose their cred. as a free thinker.

 

That has been cleared by the NRA as an appropriate response hasn’t it ?

 

No, I don't worry about what the NRA says. It's been cleared by SCOTUS, though.

 

I concur, only liberals and snowflakes who are suffering from TDS would have an opinion about crayons worth listening too.

 

Huh ? That response definitely hasn’t been cleared by the Russian funded NRA. You’re walked on thin ice with Putin, Wayne’s big bro.

 

The topic is shotguns and revolvers. You're off topic.

 

I have a good one.

If a Remington Mod. 870 has a rifled slug barrel, is it still a shotgun ?

 

Put a 16" rifled barrel on it and ask ATF.

 

Good one.

It was Obama's ATF that had no problem with bump stocks.

 

Moar lies.

 

You know nothing about Me or how I think, or anything outside your wish to fit me into a convenient well defined cubby hole.

 

I have heard the BS of the NRA laundering money for the Russians; silly on the face of it, Russia, nor any country has need to launder money...they have what they have. Deception, lies, distortion... all tools of the trade in laundering the Anti Gun Clack propoganda to the vastly uninformed... dagosa buys (sells) it all.

 

Different way to look at it...when someone with no credibility suggests you have none, well, consider the credibility of the source.

 

First and foremost, the firearms in question were, according to available reports, stored in a locked safe. Exactly what more could be done in the matter to make them less available, short of them not being owned?

Second, the individual responsible for the Santa Fe shooting was seventeen years old, meaning he was not able to legally possess or otherwise purchase firearms. Meaning they were not legally available to him to begin with.

Except for the fact that there is no evidence, that someone is more likely to be shot on the basis that they are carrying a firearm, as opposed to those who do not carry a firearm. This is especially the case when the carrying is done in a legal, concealed manner.

 

Plain and simple, you don't know what you're talking about.

My grandfather was a Southwestern cop for 40 years, starting in the 1930's. The issue sidearm of his agency when he started was a Colt .38 Special. Loaded with stock .38 Special lead roundnose ammo it was quickly found to be anemic at best. Most officers were given the option of carrying other firearms so long as they could qualify with them and the ammunition they wanted to use. Most of the personnel who stayed with the .38 Special were administrative people, or people dismissed by their fellow officers as dilettantes. The .38 Special lead round nose load was for years denigrated as a "widow-maker"; not because it stopped bad guys effectively but because so many cops died after emptying their .38 Specials and being killed by their assailants as they frantically tried to reload.

My grandfather quickly adopted a Smith & Wesson revolver in .44 Special, which he handloaded himself to get the performance he wanted; eschewing the factory standard 246 gr. lead round nose bullet at about 800 fps in favor of a 255 gr. semiwadcutter loaded to 1000 fps that he found to be a very effective fight stopper. Other officers used guns in .44 or .45 caliber, later in .357 Magnum as that cartridge became more widely available. One of the most highly acclaimed law-enforcement calibers of the last 40 years was the .357 Magnum 125-gr. JHP at 1400 fps; seen as the "Thor's Hammer" of rounds due to is stellar success as a manstopper. Law enforcement officers have used calibers much more "high caliber" than the .38 Special going back to the latter half of the Nineteenth Century, so to claim that "more than .32 is high caliber" or that "the deadliness of firearms has increased" is nothing short of complete nonsense.

 

Agreed. They say success in gunfighting has the same primary three rules as investing in real estate: "Location, location, location."

And to reject the logic that a more effective round placed as accurately as a less effective one will give better results is to reject an honest assessment.

 

So, you have been sucked up by that nonsensical propaganda too? Sad.

 

The NRA has been sleeping with the Russians for years. Trump is just a recent beneficiary to the tune of 30 million and an NRA asteroid kisser. You guys are so gullible.

 

This is one reason the FBI argued for going back to 9 mm from ..40.
The more lethal weapons are those that can be held on target. We could argue that a more lethal Home defense weapon for many people is a full size revolver shooting target load wad cutters. It’s better then missing with 10 mm.