Sniper takes out ISIS executioner from a mile away

In fair and just world, it would be snipers like this who get the 72 virgins.

 

You clearly chose to ignore what I (at your request) explained and are choosing to mention a irrelevant semantics. Video game kill vs an intimate act of a rifle shot meant for ONE human being with zero collateral damage.

 

No, they understand your point just as I do. You did a nice job with your synopsis but I (like Quester) don't agree. The book talks about how the further you're removed (infantry, artillery, planes bombing) the less the physiological damage. You don't want to accept that looking at a video feed thousands of miles away is not as "intimate" as a sniper scope at a mile. How? Satellites today can get very up close and personal. Here's something you haven't addressed also. What about the poor guy that got bad intel and bombs the wrong building? You don't think that has a physiological weight?

 

Lol...And you mistake me for someone who gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about your opinion.

 

What a coward!!! Just adding another leftie belief when it comes to our military. 😉


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I'm not saying a drone operator has a psychologically easy job with no stress. Quite the opposite, as they are performing a task that is being watched by superior officers much more so then enlisted infantry soldiers at a remote outpost who have much more discretion (as they should) with what actions they take based on any given situation.

But the drone operator and/or pilot don't get to see blown up human bodies and limbs, they don't get to see an enemy riddled with bullets from them after the intensity of the gunfight. Sure the carnage is just as bad or even worse from an aerial strike, but I don't think the intensity of the personal, and very intimate act of the kill can compare. The smell of death, smoke, etc never gets to the drone operator who is sitting in a climate controlled HQ.

That is what I was trying to explain. No matter how HD the camera on a drone/satellite get, it'll never be the real thing. It's like arguing that a blow up sex doll is just like the real thing. Knowing full well that'll never be the case.

 

It's about time. I for one am sick of seeing ISIS videos all over bestgore and other gorehound sites. The Allahuakbar bull(*)(*)(*)(*) must come to an end.

Bravo to this marksman. I hope the hostages got away or something. Too many innocents under the executioners axe these days.

 

You clearly have never seen unedited drone footage. No one could watch it and say it's a video game.

 

I understand but you don't get the visceral feel that you are talking about unless you are in a close quarter firefight. What you're talking about you also don't get from a mile away.

 

You do know drones can be automated to fly constant grid patterns correct? With smart mapping you don't even need grids. Then it's just an algorithm for detecting viable enemies.

Seems like a job for the guys over at osbot, theyve done it before.

 

That's not much different than an autopilot system. Still the AI doesn't fire weapons. It takes a human in the chain to do that.

 

If Hillary has her way, no American sniper will ever be able to do this in Iraq or Syria. She said flatly, no ground troops ever there again. I guess we'll have to rely on the Brits.

 

You're both right and wrong.

Where you're right: A sniper's job is to gather information, and to kill when necessary without detection. A human must have to, at some point, kill another- man to man. That is intimate.
Where you're wrong: A 15 series drone operator blowing up some haji's terrorist nest is also intimate. That 15 series knows he just leveled some 5 people. What's worse? If a civilian was caught underneath the shots fired from his "video game".

 

I find nothing intimate about shooting religious fanatics summarily executing innocent people for no reason at all.

End them all.

 

You clearly have no military or combat experience.

 

Obama's strategy of targeted assassination of terrorist leaders is a very popular alternative to a new ME war.
It is also a personally courageous strategy for Obama to have ordered, and contributes to his high approval numbers.

 

Wouldn't need it to. Have it designate targets via laser. Then you can have humans eye check it out and either engage or call it off and have it return to patrol. With a solar powered battery you could keep one these flying over a city in Syria virtually non stop.

You could give it the authority to kill, but you'd need a fail-proof algorithm with a lower civilian mortality rate than people in the air.

 

It's also something that will never win a war. For every "leader" we kill, 100 new recruits are made who dream of taking their place.

The "leaders" are mostly decoys. We'll never know the names of the real shot callers because we can't go into Syria and interrogate the people we suspect. In Iraq during the Bush era, it was easy to sniff out the terrorist command because we had a HUGE presence with tons interrogation and search parties.

All we're doing to ISIS is throwing drops of water on the ant hill.

It will NEVER end ISIS and win this war. The only way to defeat ISIS is through massive invasion of the area and less tightened rules of engagement. Otherwise, might as well just let them operate.

 

No, I don't. I don't care to either. I am glad other people have the stomach for it, and am glad other people will step up to put their lives on the line where some of us won't.

That being said, I equate intimacy differently, and thus, my opinion on the matter.

 

Fair enough, I'll accept that.

 

There already is a massive invasion of ISIS territory.

There just aren't (many) American feet in the boots on the ground. We should continue to let the locals take the lead with the ground operations.

 

I think we should give everyone who has a confirmed kill on a ******* a medal or something like the flags painted on the sides of the cockpits of WWII fighters.

 

It's not massive by any means.

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Intimacy has many definitions.

 

some people obviously havent learned the lesson of getting involved in a civil war, let alone the adolescent notion, that military might will change minds

 

The upcoming assault on Mosul is shaping up to have more troops involved than the US invasion of Iraq, but maybe you have a different definition of massive.