Sniper takes out ISIS executioner from a mile away

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  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's a bit of good news from the front.
    We should develop sniper drones that can pinpoint targets from a distance and take them out without unwanted collateral damage.
    A laser drone could likely be better than a more traditional form of firepower.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/12/sniper-takes-out-isis-executioner-from-mile-away.html
     
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    You do know drones have human pilots yes?
     
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    The snipers bullet actually missed the radical Islamic extremest and hit the fuel tank on his back so nobody actually got shot and everyone should be happy.
     
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    AI for basic flight operations, not for weapons release.

    And no, it's the exact same thing. Pray tell, what it the different between looking though a scope with your finger on the trigger and looking though a screen with your finger on a button? Either way, you are responsible for the shot and you see the results.
     
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    A drone gives it's own position away. They can disperse and regroup later. The human sniper is the most stealthy thing out there.
     
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    Depends on how high the drone is flying.
     
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    A HUGE difference. Please read On Killing by Dave Grossman and you'll understand.
     
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    You could summarize? I'm not reading a whole book based on the word of an anonymous person on the Internet.
     
  11. Russ103

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    Fair enough.

    Basically, killing someone is a horrific act that no human wants to do. It is however easier to do when the intimate act of killing is removed via distance/sight.

    Example: the amount of infantry soldiers in WWII who fired their rifles at will was (don't recal the exact #) very low. It rose exponentially with a crew served weapon such as a belt fed machine gun because it required two soldiers to perform the act of shooting at another human, thereby somewhat absolving the lone soldier from the guilt he may have had.

    The next level as an example was an artillery unit who are firing a multi crew served weapon at an enemy that they don't directly see. Nor do they see the grotesque aftermath of what exploded ordinance that they have just fired do to the human bodies that are their enemy, but are still human like they are.

    The ultimate mobile weapon that removes the human to human killing is (and in many ways still is) the aircraft that's dropping bombs from thousands of feet in the air without ever seeing he carnage that is occurring below. Think of when Tokyo was fire bombed (as was Dresden). We still hear people who don't think of what I'm currently explaining to you and whoever is reading this. Those people are outraged by the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which by comparison to incendiary conventional bombs used in Tokyo were nowhere near as horrific to the people on the ground.

    I just typed this on my phone, but did it make sense? You saying there's no difference to a sniper who is intimately involved with the life he will take once he pulls the trigger vs a drone operator sitting in the safety of an office behind a screen just waiting for the order to push a button. The difference in astronomical on the human psyche that will likely affect the sniper (in this example) far more then the drone operator.
     
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    Amazing accuracy by the shooter.
     
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    I don't like the idea of snipers on a regular battlefield since it seems cowardly, like shooting an opponent in the back, but making this guy and his two cameramen explode in a ball of flames by hitting the gas tank on his back, just as he was about to torch his own victims with a flamethrower, is sweet justice. I would have liked to see that video.
     
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    He probably didn't take on these guys:

    [video=youtube;jWoBtcFw040]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWoBtcFw040[/video]
     
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    Just wondering, how does a sniper seem cowardly?

    Never mind. I just reread your post.
     
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    I would love to see a video if one was available of ISSIS- Igor-The-Crispie Critter being barbecued !,
     
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    But a drone pilot has just as intimate a view of his target as a sniper does. I've have watched drone footage live and seen drones take out targets. The resolution is even better than what you get from a rifle scope at a mile.
     
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    Most of the time they're doing recon work and not actually targeting anyone.
     
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    I am not, or have I ever been a sniper, or a drone operator, so I'm commenting on it from a human psyche opinion. Having said that, a drone operator may have a live feed view through a monitor from above, but I don't see how it can compare to what a sniper sees through his scope, plus the after affect from a drone is a dust cloud, vs a bullet from a rifle. Either way, I hope you understood he premise of what I took the time to elaborate on for you since you asked.

    The book I referenced is absolutely fascinating btw about the way it describes the human mind in its most intimate form. I'd highly recommend it.
     
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    Good thing nobody in the military cares about what you like as its a meritocracy and result driven business.
     
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    A reporter asked the sniper; what did you feel when you shot the terrorist?

    "recoil"
     
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    A sniper team is generally two people. Normally, they make the decision to pull the trigger far away from commanders. Drone pilots are sitting in a room in Las Vegas, with their direct commanders walking the aisle behind them. Not saying one is better than the other, but they are clearly not the same...
     
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    Nice shot! Torched him!
     
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    The after effect from a drone is only a dust cloud if there is dust to cloud. Let me assure you, the camera resolution from a drone is better than what you'd have with a sniper scope a mile away.
     

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