Sniper takes out ISIS executioner from a mile away

USG military adventures almost always fail to advance the national interests of the US.

 

IOW, we substituted foolish war goals over a total victory over a defined enemy. Kind of like imperialism but rather stupid and very costly - Dumbbell Imperialism?

 

We have a problem with trusting foreigners to do a job we could. However, this is a middle east problem and we shouldn't be involved.

 

The other way of looking at it is that the US is at war whenever Congress authorizes the use of military force. In which case we have engaged in war repeatedly without achieving a victory or advanced the interests of the US for over 70 years.

Congress needs to stop authorizing war when the objective is something other than a decisive victory over a well defined enemy that will clearly advance the interests of the US. Beyond that no politician should support warfare under the current leadership and rules of engagement for any reason.

Of course, I agree with your description of the foolish excuses for war that the political class has offered over the decades. The American people are also onto this nonsense. The long era of America's bizarre Dumbbell Imperialism needs to end - right now.

 

drones are still controlled by humans

 

Well, the WT is IMO a good source, but it is very biased against Obama. Has anyone scanned Mother Jones, The Nation, The New Republic or other LW sources?

If Obama is about to suffer a major foreign policy setback someone who likes him may have published a warning.

 

I'm doing google searches for the battle. I'm just opening every article I see and reading, and then gathering my hypothesis based off of about 14 articles.

 

I agree completely with that.

 

Thank you so much for doing that. If you can't find anything from a LW source I will dig into it as well.

If Obama can get the Iraqis to expel the IS from Mosul w/o US troops I am all for it. I hope he can pull that off, but I am not very optimistic. I do not envy our special operators who are trying to work this thing on the ground.

 

That's something that will not happen for a long time. Too many innocent people there. This is very delicate and will take a long time. All the sources I'm reading say that it'll be years before ISIS is expelled in very large numbers. Are there sources that say otherwise? I cannot find them.

 

I have not done any careful research. I do know that allowing the IS to sell oil guarantees that their defense of territory will be well funded and tenacious.

 

This is much bigger than just ISIS though. Other terror groups are profiting from ISIS. Remember, they have allies outside of mosul.

 

Not all are... Look into AI and then come back.

 

all orders programed into a drone are done by humans, AI does control flight kinda like auto-pioliot, but no AI is deciding on its own to kill people

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Using your standards, we didn't even achieve total victory in WW2 because fascism still existed in Spain, Portugal, and Brazil.

 

Have you been to Spain, lately?

 

I was using sarcasm in my post. I do that a lot

 

Yes, the ME will probably be a hell hole forever, but if the Iraqis take back Mosul it will certainly take the bloom off the ISIS flytrap.

 

Our enemies during WW II were Germany, Japan and Italy not an ideology. A war on fascism would have required the invasion of the USSR, Spain etc.

That would have been even more foolish than the very foolish wars against Iraq. We had better leaders during WW II.

 

nerds that are unattached to the environment villages folks in the battle field area around them, warriors snipers do, they have more compassion for civilian collateral damage

 

And our enemy during Panama was Noriega. Our mission there had nothing to do with maintaining permanent control over the Canal, but for some reason you changed that goal post. So why can't I change your goalposts?

Clearly, we didn't win WW2 because Spain and Brazil were still fascist when the war ended.

 

The Iraqis took back their entire country a few years ago and lost it in a year.

If you think Mosul even matters, then we need to re-examine foreign policy.

 

We lost the Canal so we did not win a war in Panama.

Your assertion that we lost WW II undermines your credibility - you should reconsider your position.

 

Mosul matters for Obama's legacy thing. If recovered w/o another American ground war there will be fewer American ground wars in the future.
If the Iraqis give it back they can decide what to do next - it is their nation.

 

No it doesn't. It has nothing to do with his legacy. This "battle" is not even defined. I'm still asking for sources and no one is presenting them. Also, Obama is still arming Al Qaeda Syrian "rebels" in Syria. His legacy is already defined.