SOON:Revolution in Russia

On the threshold of forthcoming State Duma elections in Russia all civil society is boiling up: people are deadly tired of corruption, arbitrary decisions by judges, authority’s tyranny, abusing the Constitution. People want free election, they don’t want Putin will be the next president. Runet is filled with opposition videos, items, music, etc. Undoubtedly the next revolution will be in Russia. Help to spread this video and conduct democratic elections. Help to make the revolution and overthrow Putin's government!

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Not me.. I like Putin.. He's not an ideologue.. He's all about business and pipelines.

 

"They need Great shocks - we need Great Russia!" Peter Arkadjevich Stolypin from the speech at session of State Duma, on May, 10, 1907.

 

I'd watch what I say on the open internet. Putin might get you too. He has a nasty knack of making people disappear in gruesome ways, like radioactive poisons and plane wrecks.

 

Do you have proof or just innuendo?

 

Come on Margot!

You know that if proof was required for every posting, PF wouldn't need an upgrade because it would have no members.

 

Wow welcome, that's a heck of a different perspective we get from the other Russians around here.

Is there really that much push back against him? If anything it usually sounds like the Russian people would like more tyranny, corruption, and abuse so long as they can be a proud and scary bear in the international arena once agin.

For the rest of us, the only good thing Putin might bring is the return of Russian reversal jokes.

 

The guy is dreaming nothing more. Libyans have already made their great revolution. It is interestingly how many decades they will restore their former rich country?

 

Usually he makes a borshch of objectionable people and eats it.

 

A heartily delivered response, I kidney you not.

 

Correct me if I am wrong, regarding the following assumption:

Putin will make sure he wins the election in any way/means necessary.

 

You are absolutely right. After that he will eat all dissidents with borsh and vodka, and then he will invade the_free_world to bring communism!

 

Several weeks ago one American guy tried to prove to me that Libyans establish democracy. Now I think every idiot understands that they have replaced Gaddafi for Islamites . Good change! I think they will construct the advanced society with such leaders. Kurginyan is right as it is usual.

 

C'mon now. How in the world can anyone eat all the dissidents with borsh and vodka..what with their hands all tied up with currency agreements with China?

Invading is sooo expensive anymore.

 

More welcoming the new member and seeing if they really think Russians don't want Putin.

Though I was being serious when I said that I thought Russian's would happily accept additional corruption, control of the media, reduced civil rights, reduced freedom of the press etc if it meant being feared and respected internationally.

Certainly that's the vibe I get from you and Potap from other threads.

Now if the economy was tanking that might be something else. But your countries productivity was driven into the ground during and after the Soviet era. You guys should be able to maintain strong growth for decades just in getting back where you ought to have been in the first place.

So there isn't any reason you shouldn't be able to continue the current trend of stronger military forces, relatively good economic growth, and reporters "committing suicide" in police cars and then being tossed out on the curb.

I do not believe you'd have a problem with that path.

 

Unknown member from middle of nowhere with a single post. Really?

No need to repost Washington Post or FOX news stamps over here. Do me a favor, avoid disputing things you have no clue about. We are not more corrupt, than the rest of the world. Our media is not controlled more, than yours. We have the same civil rights as you do, e.t.c.
The only thing our society needs - is prosperity and stability. With feeling proud of our country. It is not about "international" respect, however. And if that will require, say increasing media control or wiping some other countries out of the planet's surface - we will do it. In my mind, of course.

You are still reposting your "free" media stamps. Please, stop it already. We have already reached 1991 GDP level after economic stagnation in 90th. For now our industrial output is about 22% China, 75% Germany e.t.c. Our GDP in PPP is about 19000$ according to World Bank. We are not "on the bottom" anymore. Now it is not so simple to grow, like it was 10 years ago.

Indeed, I hope we won't.

 

Putin has a nice set of man boobs.

 

I understand that you don't know what a real situation in Russia is.
Our government have been rigging elections for the last 12 years, don't you know it? Now only maybe 30% will vote for Putin, but TV will tell us that the ruling party "United Russia" ("Yedinaya Russiya") collected 60-70% votes, but it's unbelievable. This "spit in face" will stir up people's discontent much more, because now many people are ready to go anf vote for any party except party of hustlers, pilferers and thiefs - "United Russia" party and they are rather agressive now.
Putin's system is based on corruption and lawlessness-everybody knows it. He permits stealing therefore he can rule. But now people became more active and putin's system can no longer define self-enrichment as its central national purpose without provoking people's resentment. Revolution is coming, I live in Moscow and I see what is going on)) But of course our TV doesn't show it. But the truth can't be concealed forever)) Rebellion is only a question of time.

Now it doesn't matter generally who will be a new leader, now it's very important to conduct free fair elections. To destroy a system it's not to lead 100000 peoples out into Pushkin Square, set fire to rhe Kremlin and to shoot the whole bunch. Nobody calls upon to this. We looked after revolutions in Ukraine, Georgia - there were bloodless, relatively quiet revolutions. The matter is to make ruling elite waive unlawful seizure of power and declare real free elections and there will be take part everybody: left-wing party, right-wing party, nationalists, Navalny also.
And people, that will be elected of free expression of popular will will make a new system. This is normal, right civilized way, adopted all over the world.

We have a new very promising young politic - Alexey Navalny, a lot of active russian people trust him and I think that exactly he will be the next leader.

Sorry for my English))

 

Revolutionaries appeal to their own people, not to strangers.Those one who ask for a help from abroad are called differently.

 

Latest from Libya:

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...professor-el-keib-interim-prime-minister.html

Have you ever read the Libyan Constitution?

 

... It sounds like you're agreeing with me. Maybe you thought I was trying to say you were the bottom of the barrel. I wasn't.

I was simply saying that I felt Russians, at least the ones I knew of on this board(you, potap and winters) would trade things like media independence/freedom for pride in your country as you put it. And if I'm reading your post correctly, you would.

Again, we are agreeing. I didn't say you were on the bottom.

It's just that through your soviet era and it's collapse your GDP per capita was driven far below where it could have been. It has been recovering. But I don't think there's any reason why you shouldn't be able to at least double it simply by adopting technologies and practices that are already used elsewhere and are readily availible to you. Especially with your natural resources.

This ready access to enhanced productivity should act as a driver for growth. Meaning that unless your leadership is really screwing up, you should generally experience strong growth for decades.

It seems it is unsafe to do so within Russia. Judging by how reporters have a habit of winding up dead when they say the wrong things.

Using an anonymous website hosted outside of Russia may be the only really safe way to go about spreading information among Russians.

 

My dear compatriots (I mean Russians)! I appeal to you stop trolling me)) If you have any claim upon me, pray be brief and come swiftly to the point.

 

Wow, I didn't know that Putin was gay.

But Russia is too big anyways. I think international interest would dictate to make Siberia an independent state (or part of China), also the "Russian Far East" region. And maybe the European Arctic region cound be made independent too (or part of Finland).

Then, with the reduced size, Russia will become dynamic enough to execute political changes to follow the lives of its people.

 

I have never read the Libyan constitution. Also I did not read many other constitutions. Constitutions: Papua New Guinea, Nauru, Argentina, France and so on. What's the use the constitution. Russia has the constitution which is almost a copy from the American constitution and you see many Americans consider Russia as dictatorship. But I say that in the countries of the Arabian spring under a mask of democracy come Islamic extremists to change secular dictators. It is obvious.

As to Libya. A half of a year ago Russian political scientist Sergey Kurginjan predicted the strengthening of Islamites in this country in the case of removing Gaddafi. There are three main forces in this country claiming to real power: Gaddafi, Sanussi which were deprived of the power 40 years ago by Gaddafi and Islamic radicals which support close mutual relations with the clan Sanussi. In the case of removal of Gaddafi the authority get Sanussi in the union with Islamic radicals. As to liberal idiots which have begun this so-called revolution, they will be removed from the political scene of this country as they have no support in the Libyan society. Libya is the Muslim society. This is not Europe.

A bit of old information on this account not from the Russian press.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MH30Ak01.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html

 

Dont you think one day the international interest will dictate the fifth Partitions of Rzeczpospolita? Then Poland without Stalin's gifts, in the borders of Duchy of Warsaw will become dynamic enough to execute political changes to follow the lives of its people.

As I see Poles like to sell the bear's skin before one has caught the bear.