The Alternative Ukraine Thread

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  1. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    I find out that Putin is visiting Iran concerning the Russia invading Ukraine/ Putin probably wants Iran as an ally in their efforts to take over Ukraine/
     
  2. Richard Franks

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    Shelter in Ukraine's capital takes in animals haunted by war (msn.com)
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    There are dogs in Ukraine that fear this war and there are Ukrainians that have the compassion to do so.

    It has been wrong for what Russian troops do to Ukraine.
     
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    of course they are...even an the gentle osmosis of information must make passed your level of mass filtration....then again it's probably difficult for you to go against the party line without incurring a prison sentence..... or what's the going rate...RBL100,000 fine isn't it?

    ah...more "what abouts" and "what ifs"....shall we also include Alexander the Great and Scipio Africanus and Caesar and and and....lots of what abouts to choose from isn't there....


    Bollocks to your puerile little "hypocrite" comments and your ham-fisted attempts at denial. This is a discussion on the here and now; the invasion of Ukraine so you can shove your cheap little insults.

    If all you have are banal cheap diversion tactics to guard against the reality of what a little dictator is attempting then why not just bugger off to the Conspiracy Theory threads and warble on about your "what ifs" and "what abouts" with the tin foil hat brigade.

    You're not worth the effort...certainly not worth the salary you're being paid as a UI on here.
     
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    Those who don't have an argument always resort to poster attacks. HYPOCRITE! I'm here to make a couple of posts to shame you. If those were Russians dying as they did in the Crimea massacres or Arabs in Iraq and Syria you wouldn't give a toss!
     
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  5. Jack Hays

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    Actually, the Serbs killed Albanians; NATO killed Serbs.
    The NATO bombing killed about 1,000 members of the Yugoslav security forces in addition to between 489 and 528 civilians. It destroyed or damaged bridges, industrial plants, hospitals, schools, cultural monuments, private businesses as well as barracks and military installations.

    NATO bombing of Yugoslavia - Wikipedia
     
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    Of course.

    Ultra-MAGA= Nazi

    Actual Neo-Nazi's= ANTIFA/BLM
     
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    Yes, that's what I said. "What about the NATO air attacks for weeks on end on Serbia in 1999 as they too did a bit of ethnic cleansing of the Albanians which left thousands dead and injured?" How many now crying crocodile tears condemned that?
     
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    :roflol:.....ah bless....

    mate, its not an attack its just a statement of the obvious....its you Russians doing the attacking.....;)
     
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    ....you haven't a clue have you.

    Your modus operandi....let's just make up any old crap and see who bites.....let's divert attention away from reality so it suits your banal narrative.

    You aren't worth the rations
     
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    Is the truth hurting? Didn’t the “any old crap” I stated happen? Wasn’t it reality? If you’re going to shed crocodile tears in a competition as to who is more righteous, then get the facts out. Never mind the implied indignation that we would never do anything like what is happening in Ukraine.

    The Serbs haven’t forgotten even if you want to pretend ignorance.
    https://russia-insider.com/en/history/extent-natos-destruction-yugoslavia/ri4901
     
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    There was no "ethnic cleansing of the Albanians" by NATO. As I said, the Serbs did that. NATO air was actually quite precise. The Serbs started the war and got what they deserved.
     
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    ~ We see in this another distraction fiasco — likely orchestrated by the Biden administration. We also see the failure of the "mighty" Russia. I suspect ulterior motives such as the phoney "blame Russia" excuse for rising fuel costs, "Zelensky the Hero" propaganda and of course the ever present money laundering. :disbelief:'
    Elections have consequences ...
     
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    No one is saying NATO ethnically cleansed anyone. The Serbs did and NATO gave them a good hiding for it. In Ukraine the Ukrainian Nazi militias tried to ethnically cleanse the Russians and NATO supported them.
     
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    Ah. Thanks for untangling your sentence.
    There has been no Ukrainian ethnic cleansing of Russians, only a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
     
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    A variant of 'last Thursdayism'. History began on Feb 24th when Russia responded to attacks preceding that date, anything before Feb 24th is irrelevant.
     
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    Wake up Jack and give your head a shake. You didn’t know this sort of thing had been going on? You thought Putin suddenly woke up one day and had nothing better to do?
    Now tell me this isn’t going on because it’s not what you believe. DISCLAIMER: Shows graphic images of violence. Don’t watch it and then start complaining you’re offended. These are the scum that will be rooted out after all this is over and executed themselves, you know, the ones you’re now cheering for as innocent people defending their country? No one side is innocent.
     
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    Hey I opposed that war too.
     
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    US sending more military aid to Ukraine as war grinds on (msn.com)
    Ukraine will be on the move when the U.S. forces move in against Putin and the Russian forces. Putin is going to have to fact: Don't mess with the U.S.
     
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    Start a thread in History.....are you listening......CAN YOU HEAR.....


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    I think he's English, so it's best to start by apologizing for the battle of Bannockburn.
     
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    The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model
    https://www.rand.org › pubs › perspectives


    We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of ...
     
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    Propaganda about propaganda. Well, there's a lot of it about. I was here during half of the Vietnam War so I know a bit about US propaganda and the old guys were talking a lot about Edward Bernays.
     
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    The important point to note is just because Joe Biden said 'unprovoked' doesn't make it true. He has a certain amount of involvement in the provocation himself, so it means his memory might not be perfect, or maybe that politicians sometimes lie.
     
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