The AR15 is, for all intents and purposes, an M16

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by TOG 6, May 18, 2023.

  1. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not aware of such.
     
  2. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Seawolves were the Navy helicopter units that supported SEALs in Vietnam.
     
    Turtledude likes this.
  3. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Fort Rucker is now Fort Novosel in accordance with the wokist renaming of military facilities named after Confederate Generals.
     
    Rucker61 likes this.
  4. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Rucker was actually the name I used in the early Medal Of Honor video fame, as it worked for both the US and German characters.

    I got to Fort Rucker a couple of times to hit up their clothing sales store. It was slightly closer than Benning but didn't have a Ranger Joe's, IIRC.
     
    AARguy likes this.
  5. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The best store to visit is just outside the main gate... civilian... on the right side as you enter. Heck... if its still there... been awhile.

    IIRC? Integrated Infra-Red Countermeasures?
     
  6. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Less than two weeks after that decision was announced, a shooter armed with a semiautomatic AR-15 rifle and 30-round magazines opened fire on an Independence Day parade in Highland Park, Ill. The weapon allowed the shooter to fire 83 rounds in less than a minute, killing 7 and wounding 48."

    Reload THREE TIMES.... pull the trigger 83 times... move the weapon to new aimpoints 83 times... IN LESS THAN 60 SECONDS????
    BS
     
    JET3534 and Turtledude like this.
  7. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If I remember correctly
     
  8. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I live out west and hardly likely to drive to the east to buy uniform items. Veteran discounts for online shopping rule.
     
  9. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    M1A is a beautiful gun. Shot NRA highpower with one for many years. Will keep mine forever.
    The AR10, however, is likely the best - and unquestionably the most versatile - full-power semi-auto platform, ever.
     
  10. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,979
    Likes Received:
    21,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    agree to both-ergonomically, the FN might be the champ of the big three (or four if you count the HK 91-I had a CETME version I sold during the clinton panic for 4X what I bought it for). The big weakness of the FN is its flexible top receiver which makes (same with the AK platform) scope mounting a bit of a hassle
     
  11. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I want to like the G3. I really do. But I can't. It just fits all wrong, everywhere -- and overly complex.
    Same with the FAL, just not as bad.
     
  12. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,979
    Likes Received:
    21,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    the G3 has a crappy trigger. I have an SL-8 in 556 (it's marked 223 but it's a 556 chamber-something to do with politics in Germany) and it has a great trigger. I don't think the FN is overly complex. Its easier to td than a M14/MIA IMHO
     
  13. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I've never even held, much less fired, either of those, but I sure do like my AR platforms. I can build them, tune them, adjust them, repair them and upgrade them very easily. They're easy to scope, mine all have free floating barrels, the precision ones have adjustable gas blocks that are easily accessible. I can change out a trigger in 10 minutes or just change the pull weight or remove and install a new barrel in 25.
     
    TOG 6 and Turtledude like this.
  14. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,979
    Likes Received:
    21,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    with my favorite triggers (no particular order) hiper-fire, Eftman, CMC Geiselle, or Timney, it's more like five minutes-I stick to the cassette triggers. The top of the line Geiselle's take a bit more lining the pins up etc
     
  15. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This includes pulling pistol grip, too. I like the LaRue triggers, especially when they were $90.
     
    Turtledude likes this.
  16. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I was living in California at the time, where the Draconian gun laws relating to any AR (10, 15, etc) are so restrictive, I chose to buy a Saiga chambered in 308 instead.
     
    TOG 6 likes this.
  17. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    7,272
    Likes Received:
    4,850
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Different tools for different tasks, but then some tools are just of cool design, owned just for that reason, like straight pull actions.
     
    Turtledude likes this.
  18. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,979
    Likes Received:
    21,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I have a cheaper biathlon action 22. it's slick
     
    An Taibhse and Rucker61 like this.
  19. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Admittedly, two of my ARs were exercises in engineering and one was to see how fast I could put one together.
     
    Turtledude and An Taibhse like this.
  20. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2016
    Messages:
    7,272
    Likes Received:
    4,850
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So many gun designs so little time.
     
    Turtledude likes this.
  21. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I like to have a wide variety. If SHTF. 9mm may dry up. Or 45 ACP... so have some 40 S&W weapons. Same with rifles. if 5.56 dries up... have some 308 rifles too. I go for military and LEO calibers mostly. Those should always be available. Now that the military is moving to 6.5 Creedmore... I'll need some of those bullet launchers too.
     
  22. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's not quite a 6.5 Creedmoor, and I don't believe the two rounds are compatible.
     
    Turtledude likes this.
  23. AARguy

    AARguy Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2021
    Messages:
    14,265
    Likes Received:
    6,663
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No they are not. That's why I want weapons that can fire a variety of rounds in case some get hard to get. That's the point. Have weapons available to fire any round that remains available.
     
  24. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2016
    Messages:
    9,774
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you have the tools and know-how to rebarrel an AR?
     
  25. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,979
    Likes Received:
    21,174
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    that also meant two mag changes. So you are right-it is oozing steaming bovine droppings
     

Share This Page