The Book of Revelation Unlocked

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  1. Qchan

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    The way your evil bible is interpreting scripture is terrible.
    If you ARE that kid with the glasses from that Youtube video, then you're very confused.

    Do you believe that in order for those to get to the Father, they first must go through the Son?




    The Tanakh theology? It's clear you have no idea what you're saying.



    If you say so. Live your life and just ignore this thread.



    Any Jew you say, huh? Doesn't look like they'll be there for long anyway.
    Source: http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leak...secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
     
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    Alright. You are certainly free to believe that. Feel a bit better now?

    Currently, it's not really my job to convince you that I'm correct. My job is to wake up the other Children of Israel. Until then, my overall message really isn't for you.
     
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    There was a messianic church from which the founder thought that the name of the beast was Kristos Zus.

    It happens that the pronunciation and interpretation of each letter of the Greek Chi Xi and Stigma can be as 600=X, which we commonly use for Xmas, Xto (Chrismas, Christ) ...60= Z with the sound of this letter, and ... 6=S which is an obsolete Greek letter today but pronounced as S. Stigma is by coincidence the marks of the nails in feet and hands of Christ plus the wounding in the upper side of his body.

    He even used the Hebrew letters used as numbers and came up with "Sus".

    It happens that only in English the name Zeus is pronounced as "Zoos", but in other languages the pronunciation is different.

    Still, it is amazing the coincidence in English when the Greek name of the beast interpreted by this past religious leader comes up as Kristos Zus.

    (This messianic church do not use the name Jesus, neither their denomination as "church", they call themselves an assembly or congregation because "church" is actually the name of a former god. )
     
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    No better or worse than before.
    I doubt you'll wake many of them up by posting on this forum most of the time.
    And from what you've said who they are, I don't think you know who the Children of Israel are.
     
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    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Minister_Louis_Farrakhan_9/article_7100.shtml
    I see, you follow this man.

    http://www.biblestudygames.com/biblestudies/childrenofIsrael.htm
    Maybe you should follow this group.
     
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    No.

    Jesus came literally for "the lost sheep", which are the Children of Israel who were exiled from the Kingdom of Israel and were sent to the other side of the Euphrates.

    These are called the "lost tribes of Israel" which never were lost physically but that they lost their "identity". When they moved to Europe, they just assimilated themselves to the existing cultures of those lands. In one part you can read of Jesus sending messengers for going beyond Samaria, they were sent to announce the return of the kingdom of God to the rest of the Israelites.

    Even more, Jews never lost their identity. Jews understood the parable of the prodigal son as God accepting the other tribes of Israel even when they were in a "pagan status" as long as they repent and go back to him, and the son (Jews) who always stayed with the king father became jealous.

    Right now, every "Christian country" in Europe is practically full of Children of Israel who follow their messiah. Even the US, which is with UK the two children of Joseph, who received the best blessing from Jacob, acquiring the best of the earth and by being bullies subjecting the rest of nations up to the end of the era.

    History backs up the play of the US, which have been used by the rest of brothers (Europe and the State of Israel) to subdue the rest of nations so finally ISRAEL (Europe, US and the State of Israel) will dominate the world.

    As a clue, read the blessing of Naphtali. He was to receive the West and the South.

    When you look the location of the tribe of Naphtali in the ancient kingdom of Israel, his location is Center and North.

    But, when you look at the current world map, Naphtali (Italy, Spain and Portugal) is located at the West and South of Europe, plus the whole South America.

    The blessings of Jacob were also for the last days.

    The survivors of Edom can be recognized between the different countries by their hatred against Israel. Many live in Spain and Mexico, which are Catholics who really hate anything that is "Jewish". That hatred in "in their blood".

    Well. not all Israelites are Jews but all Jews are Israelites.

    At this moment, the number of the Children of Israel are almost the same than the children of Esau. Just count the populations of Europe, US and the State of Israel, and compare it with the addition of the populations of the Arabian nations. You might do similar when counting them by religious preferences. Still, what it counts is the number as populations.

    Don't confuse anymore the Children of Israel as Jews, because Judah is only ONE tribe from TWELVE tribes, and Jesus came for the TWELVE tribes.
     
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    It is understood that Jesus didn't come to talk from his own heart but to talk what the Father told him to say.

    When you argue that the book of Revelation existed even before Jesus, you are confirming that BOTH agree and are giving the same prophecy.

    Then, according to the biblical requirements, TWO WITNESS are present.

    Your participation is of a great value for believers, because vindicate the agreement between the writings before and after the birth of Jesus.
     
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    The beast is a political system controlling the nations.

    Today, the common political system is "democracy".

    What about that?
     
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    According to Whom?
     
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    Then you should compare what Jesus said with the writings of the Tanakh. It's clear you haven't. Like all wise men the Rabbi didn't know the future but like the prophets before him he could see where the Jews were heading. His message was similar to Isaiah - go on like this and such-and-such will happen. And it did. It could not have been hard for him to see the opposition of the Jews to the Romans, the trouble so-called messiahs were giving the Romans, the fanatical Zealots and their even more fanatical sicarri. Even less difficult to see what was going to happen given the teaching of the Tanakh and their past history..

    Today we have many prophets who are warning us that if the world goes on like it is there will be no future for mankind. They haven't had a vision, it's not prophecy, it's just common sense. They see things as they are. Still mankind does not listen.
     
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    The Bible. If you discount the letters of Paul, you would loose about half the NT.
     
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    Sounds complicated.. Weren't Greek and Aramaic used extensively in the time of Jesus?

    Do you mean Jesus Christ - Je-zus Kristos - Zeus Jupiter Jesus Christ ? I think you're over my head.
     
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    Yes.....................
     
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    And if you discount the words of Mohammed, or Moses etc as well you would lose Abrahamic religions. Would that be a loss? Each has its own idea of god and it's own 'revelation' from its god.
    Christianity has adopted and changed the Tanakh for its own beliefs. Islam has done the same.
    All in the name of an unproven and obviously confused being.

    As an agnostic I have no idea if a superior being ('god/Yhwh/Allah) exists. If it does it must wonder what on earth it has done creating a troubled being like man.
     
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    Do you even know what you're talking about any more?



    LOL. Europe, you say?

    After the Jerusalem Exile in 70 AD, majority of the Jews fled south into Africa. The rest of the Jews who stayed were either killed or enslaved to participate in the arenas as Gladiators. This went on until 190 AD - 193 AD when Septimius Severus and his fellow moors conquered Rome by killing the Mad Emperor and his successor.

    Understand that Rome ruled most of the north regions. Any Jew caught would've been either killed or enslaved - forced to fight in the arenas. Why would any fleeing Jew go north during the exile - especially if they blended in better with the Africans to the south?



    These are assumptions on your part.

    Edomites have a lot of pride. They believe they are going to "heaven" despite the fact that judgement has been set aside for them. They believe they are untouchable; and some of them believe they can escape judgement by just believing in Jesus Christ. It's their own arrogance and ignorance that blinds them. Unfortunately for them, they don't know who Yahushua is, and are worshipping pictures of Caesar Borgia while simultaneously celebrating pagan holidays such as Easter and Christmas.

    You're lost, and you don't even realize it.



    LOL. Exactly! The funny thing is, the US and Europe already dominate the world, but not for long.



    Everything you just said is laced with deception.

    1) Edomites are those of European descent.

    2) The Jews in Israel are Khazar Jews. They are descendants of converts. They are not from the tribe of Judah and they are not Israelites.


    You're cheering for the wrong crowd, and when you learn the truth, you won't be happy.
     
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    Louis Farrakhan is Muslim, last I checked.

    I'm not Muslim.


    This is your opinion. You're certainly entitled to it.
     
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    The plot, according to this messianic pastor Angelo B. Traina, is deceit.

    Satan will trick the world by using a hiding pagan name replacing the name of the messiah.

    Believers will follow the name of Zeus as "Kristos Zeus" instead of the Hebrew name, which he -with other messianic movements today- say is Yashua or Yashuah.(This is the name Joshua in English, the letter "J" didn't come out until a few centuries ago)

    Then, this pastor calls the protestant churches as "the daughters of the harlot" because these churches inherited the fake name (Christ Jesus) replacing the real Hebrew name of the messiah, also inherited Sunday as the replacement of the Shabbat -the day of rest set by the god of the bible-, and so forth.

    Then, millions and millions of people have been deceived and can't recognize "the beast", while they are actually worshiping it and following it.

    The thoughts of this former pastor are not that bad, they make sense when today nobody has reached enough "wisdom" to decipher the name of the beast, as suggested in the book of Revelation.

    This messianic movement has went further when they don't use words as "God" because this is also a name of a former deity, Church the former name of a goddess, in Spanish it is called Dios, in Italian Dio, and is not used as well because Dios/Dio etc. is Dyaus, which is another name of Zeus.

    Coincidences are many when one finds out the replacement of the Hebrew dude who is called the messiah by the worship -indirectly worship- of Zeus. For example, in the year 135 CE, Rufus built a temple for Jupiter, June and Venus, right over the burial place which was thought was located the sepulcher of Jesus.

    Tradition took over and today, according to messianic people, Christians are worshiping the name of Zeus, and following the pagan customs, like celebrating Sunday, Solstice in December 25th, and so forth... all of that related with Zeus.

    In my opinion: a good hypothesis.
     
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    What does that matter? Are you saying Muslims won't go to the same place as you? From what you said in the past, it matters not, if jew, muslim, christian, buddahist, hindu, or atheist. All will get similar eternal lives.
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    Just as you've been giving us your opinion. You are entitled to it.
     
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    If your job is to wake up the children of israel, you'll have to convince them you are correct. If you can't convince anyone, how will you wake them up?
    And if the message isn't for me, why are you posting on this forum. Are those children posting here?
     
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    Where in the bible does Jesus state Paul is his prophet/apostle/voice?
    AFAIK, only Paul makes the claim, and it can not nor ever was verified. Sounds like the work of the dark one, satan. Sneaky, you know he controls the earth.
     
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    The Theocracy did what every government does.
    Theocracies see heretics to be what Dictatorships call rebels, Democracies call traitors, Kings call revolutionaries, etc.
    Theocracies do the same things as all governments will do when people gather to change the Laws on their own.

    But the Bible,itself, said one church would exist only for 1000 years.
    When the 1000 years ended in 1054 AD, Protestants emerged and the present twelve different basic denominaton appeared as we see today, even.
     
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    Daniel 12 tells us that by 2025 AD, Israel will accept Jesus as their Elijah, and side with the Christians who also believe the son-of-God was Truth, hence His father is Reality:


    Dan. 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (in 70 AD), and (until) the abomination (of the Dome of the Rock) that maketh desolate set up (in 690 AD), there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days, (1290 + 690 = 1980 AD, the re-dedication of The New Jerusalem as Capital of Israel).

    Dan. 12:12 Blessed is he, (1290 years after the 690 AD construction of the Dome of the Rock, that is: 1980 AD), that waiteth (45 more years), and cometh to (the end), the thousand, three hundred and five and thirty days, (2K25 AD).

    Dan. 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be (in the 21st Century, i.e.; Daniel 12:7 "times, times and half a times"): for thou shalt rest (in the genetic pool of the Jewish people), and stand in thy lot (when drawn again, from the gene pool of man for resurrection in your name and mind) at the end of the days (of Modern Homo sapiens).
     
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    Uh, I'm not seeing where you pulled out the 45 more years from.
     
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    Did Abraham have the "Holy Spirit?"

    John 8:58
    Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
     
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    Accepting Truth when one sees it is what proves the Holy Spirit is at work.
    Let us wait and see if he can recognize what is true, change his thinking around, accept Truth, and evidence that the Holy Spirit is inside him and working.
     
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