The coup investigation is about to enter a new phase.

The guard was offered by Trump days before.. guards are only deployed if asked for first, and not by Trump....Pelosi hesitated before but jumped all over deploying guards afterwards... Determining security for the expected crowd should have included way more security and the guards...the Capitol Police budget is more than most large cities... non-lethal weapons are used everyday by police throughout the US and the senseless killing of Ashli would not have just been poo pooed away in any other case... she was 5'2 and 135 lb. wet and a 28 year trained officer would have no problem tackling and handcuffing her, but he chose to use lead to kill her. He literally raised his weapon several seconds before she ever got in the window in anticipation of shooting her. But the Capitol security video from that side of the doors has not and will not be released.. The killing comes nowhere near the conditions required to use deadly physical force.

Mark Meadows and Kash Patel Trump offered the National Guard for Jan 6

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fered_security_assistance_multiple_times.html
https://www.worldtribune.com/meadow...y-10000-national-guard-to-d-c-ahead-of-jan-6/
video
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ultiple-times-dc-officials-january-6th-video/



https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1412146678644330496

 

Again, Pelosi is not in charge of security.

 

Further, Orange Jesus claimed that he requested 10,000 National Guardsmen and Guardswomen but it was denied. I've asked several times why he made that request as he had not ever requested that prior to January 6th, 2021 and hasn't since that date. What did he anticipate would happen that he wanted that much back-up support? He didn't have to anticipate anything. He knew exactly what he was going to do and how his supporters would respond when he tweeted "Be there. It's going to be wild!"

All I get is *crickets*.

 

It's kind of bizarre how they pick and choose when she's relevant and when she isn't. I was a bit surprised last year when Trump implemented the travel bans and she called him out on it by going to Asian communities sans mask. He backed down and reversed the directive.

That's NOT how leaders respond. They make hard decisions and stand by them even we don't know all the details that lead to his decision. Everybody doesn't always agree with what their manager says or their President says but we should have reasonable comfort in knowing that he is looking out for us.

Who cares what Pelosi says? He should have just bought her some ice cream and whatever nasty alcohol she drinks and told her to have her @ss a seat somewhere. Why is always so afraid to stand up for his convictions if they are so wonderful because he's a self-proclaimed super genius. Then he dupes his supporters into sending him money (he's allegedly a billionaire but needs $ constantly) and used them and abandoned them now they are facing prison terms. That's not a leader. At least stand behind the people that are willing to stand behind you. First rule of not being a @ss.

 

You maybe right. Either the person in charge of the Capital Guards or Trump can ok the National Guard to the Capital. What needs to be asked is did the FBI relay their information to the Capital Guards and to Trump? Because the Capital Guards turned it down.

 

Trump and most of supporters in Congress are guilty as sin of sedition and treason. In any other country in the world they'd all be in jail and they should be here as well. Lock Them Up

The Republicans were once the party of Law and Order. No more, now they support a lawless tyrant and his insane underlings. They have rapidly become the greatest threat to our Constitution and traditions that have existed since 1945 and they need to be treated just the same as we did then.

 

Absolutely. It's very worrisome to me that they are all so misguided about who he is and what he is. I don't understand it at all. He has thrown gasoline on this whole country and is standing ready with a lighter to set it ablaze and all they see is smoke and mirrors. It's very disconcerting. His pandemic response, alone, should have been enough for him to be removed. It's sickening.

 

He hates the right people and that is all that really matters to his followers.

 

No, no, no, AU. They are "good god-fearing Christians". They don't hate people and everything that suggests they do is the work of Satan. It's not their fault that their God made black and brown people to serve as their slaves and underlings. Their god commanded them to invade and conquer any part of the world they wanted, exploit that land's people and riches and leave them gutted. It's okay because god sanctioned it and you and I and people like us that truly believe "all people are equal" should be striped of our right to vote because we are too stupid to understand their justification for their foundational beliefs.

Orange Jesus has convinced them that this country exclusively belongs to them and everyone else is encroaching. One thing I always remind myself of is something I heard decades ago and has stuck with me.

"People may not tell you how they feel about you, but they ALWAYS show it."

I know you can process that correctly. I also know they can't.

 

Pelosi oversees the Capitol Police on the House side just like Schumer oversees the Capitol Police on the senate side and very much in charge making sure there is an adequate amount of security to protect

Did Pelosi ever answer the letter from the four lawmakers in her role in the overseeing of the Capitol Police and security that day...

https://republicans-cha.house.gov/s...1 Letter to Speaker Pelosi re January 6th.pdf

 

https://republicans-cha.house.gov/s...1 Letter to Speaker Pelosi re January 6th.pdf

 

The crickets are coming from Pelosi... no one else... the guards were offered and denied... you want to ask why Trump would offer... because he had the brains to know larger crowds need larger security and crowd control, traffic control, etc...The Capitol Police have a budget well over most big cities.... what crickets come from you is why there was not enough security for the anticipate crowd in the first place... this was not the Capitol Police first rodeo and January 6 should not have been ALLOWED to happen no matter whether it was protesters, aliens from outer space or Covid infected aliens from the border..

How strange Mayor Muriel Bowser requested a limited National Guard deployment to help bolster the Metropolitan Police Department 2 days ahead of time, but not the Capitol Police...

 

There are many people who where at the Capitol that day and some stuck in horrible conditions in the Washington D.C. Jail.... If the committee seriously was after the truthful answers... why would they not have people like Jacob Anthony Angeli Chansley, Ray Epps, Stewart Rhodes, etc front and center to find out how they ended up in DC .... If they are really looking for answers to keep this from happening again... they would go to the root causes.....

 

trump offered because he knew the national guard would follow his orders to "protect the 1st amendment rights" of his thugs.

yes, of course we should ask these self styled revolutionaries what they were up to. most were there to create a diversion, to keep the police busy while the proud bots and oath keepers grabbed the ballots and killed the vice president and other selected congresscritters.

 

'Legacy', that's a word far too grand for a kangaroo court. Everyone knows the predetermined 'outcome' of the committee, everyone also knows the committee is distorted to its preordained goal(like every other kangaroo court.) As sad as it might be for the committee to hear, but we listen to one authoritative figure of justice: The justice department. Not the kangaroo court in the house of representatives.

 

This post is absolutely drooling with irony

 

Again you are in essence wrong. The capital Hill police report directly to the Speaker and the president pro temp of the senate which in that instance was Chucky and his grandma's glasses.

 

Then let me give you a thorough response. The FBI was well aware of groups seeking to engage in violence on 1/6. We also know from the Inspector General that the then-head of the FBI(Comey) gave Trump briefings. Here's your oceam's razor: Grand conspiracy to overturn the election OR the head of the FBI(Director Wray) briefing the president? What do you think is more likely? I think it's more likely that Director Wray briefed the President on the groups that looked to disrupt the proceedings on 1/6.

We also got confirmation via Navarro that said disruption would interfere with the Green Bay strategy and not support it. So the whole allusion to which this committee exists, is not material in anyway shape or form. There's more evidence towards the President's innocence(the memos themselves also prove innocence, if one actually reads them) than not of the grand conspiracy.

The nonsensical conspiracy, and the actions of a few within the government therein during the summer and fall of 2021 has only served to neglect their own duties as representatives and the constituents they serve. That is all. And it's up to those constituents if that "public service" is what they expected when they voted them into office. If not, they should hopefully vote them out for a healthier body republic.

 

I see defenders of the Orange Insurrectionist have been busy on this thread. Deflecting attention to ground already covered about the responsibility for Capital security and offers of NG assistance. As if these assertions have any bearing at all on how Trump and his minions conspired to create a constitutional crisis in denying Biden the presidency.

Trump Adviser Peter Navarro Lays Out How He and Bannon Planned to Overturn Biden’s Electoral Win

A former Trump White House official says he and right-wing provocateur Steve Bannon were actually behind the last-ditch coordinated effort by rogue Republicans in Congress to halt certification of the 2020 election results and keep President Donald Trump in power earlier this year, in a plan dubbed the “Green Bay Sweep.”

But in an interview last week with The Daily Beast, Navarro shed additional light on his role in the operation and their coordination with politicians like Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ) and Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX). “We spent a lot of time lining up over 100 congressmen, including some senators. It started out perfectly. At 1 p.m., Gosar and Cruz did exactly what was expected of them,” Navarro told The Daily Beast. “It was a perfect plan. And it all predicated on peace and calm on Capitol Hill. We didn’t even need any protestors, because we had over 100 congressmen committed to it.”

That commitment appeared as Congress was certifying the 2020 Electoral College votes reflecting that Joe Biden beat Trump. Sen. Cruz signed off on Gosar’s official objection to counting Arizona’s electoral ballots, an effort that was supported by dozens of other Trump loyalists.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...ned-to-overturn-bidens-electoral-win?ref=home



As I said on another thread, the focus should not be on the legal merits of the attempt to subvert democracy or the ineptitude of those involved. Rather, it should be focused on the undeniable fact the attempt was made at all. By various methods a plan to keep Trump in power was executed. It involved pressuring state election officials, a letter sent with the DoJ letterhead recommending votes be discounted, quasi-legal memos drafted explaining how Pence could block Biden's certification, and it involved the mob.

 

The committee presented some of Meadows’ texts related to his involvement in Trump’s attempts to subvert the election results — which showed an alleged plot to appoint alternate, Trump-friendly slates of electors as early as the day networks called Joe Biden’s presidential victory.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/january-6-committee-dramatic-presentations-trumpworld

Conspiring to appoint an alternate slate of electors loyal to Trump but not reflective of the votes of the people makes him innocent?

 

I just saw the same thing and it gave me a chuckle. However, it's really not funny at any point.

 

Check hearing? Criminal referrals will most definitely ensue but they maybe already being investigated. Regardless, Crooked Donald is a two bit criminal.

 

Nah, don't think I need to check my hearing. Its painfully obvious that this committee isn't about any sort of legislative purpose. It's about sticking it to political opponents. The fact that you have said what you have show's that you believe it to be a criminal investigation. You just won't flat out admit it because that would just give those who's political views you dislike affirmation to what they already know. And we can't have that now can we? I was hoping for a bit of honesty. Guess that hope was misplaced.

If criminal referrals do happen outside of refusing to abide by a subpoena then that will just be confirmation also. No law is going to be made from anything this committee finds. Just like all the other committee's that investigated political rivals. Be it Republican or Democrat. This is all nothing more than a dog and pony show for their voters. And they lap it up.

 

You may need to check your news sources then. Remember this:

 

Load of horse crap. There is zero evidence that they had anything to do with or any 1/6. Further it is not illegal to look for legal redress of election illegalities.