Another one of his and others issues is they attempt to use the Bible as some sort of proof to their claims and beliefs. And they do not understand the Bible was WRITTEN by the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon and there does not exist not even one original existing Gospel as they were all destroyed by the Roman's along with the original authors and all we do have are a few guy's who rewrote the Gospels from memory and then THEY WERE KILLED and that version of the Gospel burned and then ANOTHER GUY wrote another copy of a copy and then HE WAS KILLED and that 2nd Gospel destroyed and then ANOTHER GUY....etc...etc...etc.... This is what only 4.....FOUR.....Apostles Gospels are used as the FAB 4 of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John....only those 4 Apostles wrote Gospels that we are not even sure exactly what they wrote because all original copies were destroyed so all we have is I think at the CLOSEST.....a 6th Generation COPY of one Apostles Gospel and the rest are HUNDREDS OF YEARS down the road from their originals. ANYWAYS...the Fab 4....they wrote or someone wrote it and placed their names on the Gospels....that Jesus taught that HE was the actual physical son of GOD. PROBLEM with this is.....all the other Apostles...you know the other 8 Apostles....their Gospels state that Jesus taught that ALL MEN COULD BECOME THE SON'S OF GOD BY FOLLOWING HIS TEACHINGS!! SO.....the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon THAT CREATED THE BIBLE.....by using the Torah and Tanakh to write the OLD TESTAMENT and using and PICKING AND CHOOSING.........ONLY the Gospels and Books that backed each other up as far as Jesus being the actual and physical son of GOD....as they IGNORED ALL OTHER BOOKS AND GOSPELS TO THE CONTRARY. THAT.....is how both the New and Old Testament was created by MAN. Revelation was so hated by the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon that it was OUTRIGHT REFUSED ENTRY INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT over and over again it was rejected. THEN.....in 397 AD....the day's of the massive Roman Army's were OVER!!! Soooo......they thought....HEY!!! Let's add REVELATION into the New Testament and using a system of Priests, Bishops, Cardinals and a Pope in Rome we will USE RELIGION TO CONTROL THE KINGDOMS OF EUROPE!! And that is EXACTLY what they did!! Still the Book of Revelation was STILL considered to be the work of IDIOTS and even though adding Revelation into the New Testament was KEY for Rome to reestablish it's influence and Empire upon Europe in a non-military manner.....the Roman Imperial Biblical Canon still REFUSED to allow Revelation entry into the Bible even after it was voted in back in 397 AD...Revelation was so hated that it did not get into the Bible until 419 AD. It was a designed SYSTEM OF CONTROL!! AA
I can't take a full selfie of myself either because my arm isn't long enough. Does that mean the picture I took with a selfie stick isn't actually all of me? We use tools for everything in life, of course technology helps with this. Although I disagree with your statement. Scott Kelly posted many many photos of earth and its roundness. Sure you couldn't see the entire thing, but you could see curvature. We have seen pictures of Pluto's roundness for crying out loud, what do you mean we haven't been high enough? I know it was an unmanned mission, but it still had video feed. Unless you think thousands of people have time to fake that for some pointless reason?! And the tens of thousands of people who know those people are really good secret keepers especially with secrets that have no point to them.
The Old Testament deals with a very limited geography, the author(s) of the Table of Nations only knew about as far west as Greece.
Are you really defending computer graphic imagery (CGI)? Every single picture of the planets is CGI. The only real images they get is of black and white. They use certain lenses that pick up certain elements and display them in certain colors. Such as Iron would be assigned to a certain color, if that color is the most abundant they will display the planet as red, for iron. They have no idea what the planets truly look like, only an educated guess. Through movies and television, we have become acceptable into believing what they think they look like.
Let me ask you, when you was first taught about the sphere earth, did you say prove it? Did you question it at all? Why were you so willing to accept the concept that you live on a ball? People don't care about seeking the truth for themselves, they simply just take someone of high counsels word for it, and then sit back and say, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it! Completely oblivious to the truth. Not knowing if it is indeed the truth or a lie, and care not of seeking truth themselves.
I (and others) have provided numerous proofs the Earth is not flat, without relying on photographs, which you've simply ignored. People don't care about seeking the truth for themselves, they simply just take someone of high counsels word for it, and then sit back and say, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it! Completely oblivious to the truth. OP is Exhibit A.
So you don't believe the Bible because it was written by man, yet you believe the science books which was written be man. You are of the upmost intelligent person, wow. Science is all theory. The most logical theory will be the one used until a better one comes along. The Bible never changes, and is the most accurate book of prophecies man has ever known. With all prophecies 100% accurate, or are in the making, or are yet to come. You want to deny that, that is denying reality. Completely destroying everything you have wrote on this particular reply.
You have provided 0 proof, and only circumstantial evidence. If you had proof, than you would shut the flat earth movement down, something even Neil deGrasse Tyson cannot do. Thus making a huge name for yourself. But again, you have zero proof. So keep babbling on.
Oh I almost forgot. Why don't you go to nasa.gov and in the search bar type in, derivation and definition. Click on the top choice and then scroll down to introduction summary. Read that and than tell me why? Why were such mathematical equations even tested? For a shortcut I have provided the link, I just wanted to explain how to get there in case you did not believe it comes from nasa. http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88104main_H-1391.pdf
To the contrary, I (and others) have provided direct, irrefutable proof that anyone can verify for themselves without relying on photographs. You've simply ignored it because you cannot refute it. People don't care about seeking the truth for themselves, they simply just take someone of high counsels word for it, and then sit back and say, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it! Completely oblivious to the truth. OP is Exhibit A.
So you can not answer the questions or prove your claim. But for 596 posts now, you have not given anything to support your claim. It was proven to me, when one looks over an extreme large body of water and sees the horizon disappear. I prove it today by using my satellite dish to receive satellite tv signals. Also, you've never answered why one can't go to a tall building on the east coast, take binoculars or telescope and look and see Europe. Because you don't have an answer why no one can do that, except to say the earth is curved.
There is NO flat earth movement. The world has many people so there are always some nutters in some conspiracy. But NO real flat earth movement. Hell, the flat earth society website does not have any information but unsubstantiated claims. Just like you have.
I see you have continued with the babbling. For you to say there is no movement is ridiculous. Millions of people are maybe not holding it as truth but most certainly challenging the current model. Your definition of some must be millions. God is the one that is telling us the earth is flat and stationary. And that it cannot be moved. Your saying all earth does is move. He even goes to say that the earth is His footstool. Do you know of any sphere for a footstool? Me I picture a flat surface being help up by four pillars, or legs. - - - Updated - - - The Bible is my claim. How is it even possible that you missed that?
God may be telling *you* that. For others, the fact that you cannot even address, much less the multiple items of proof I and others have presented tells us you don't care about seeking the truth for themselves, you simply just take someone of high counsels word for it, and then you sit back and say, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it! Completely oblivious to the truth.
I haven't missed it. I just assumed you to be trolling. Actually, I don't assume it. If you think the earth is a footstool, yes, I know 1 sphere that is a footstool, Earth.
What a well thought out educational diagnosis. You are a very intelligent person. Let's see what our Heavenly Father says. Why don't you take at least just five minutes, and think if the world is flat, and what would be the reason for the lie? For if the leaders knew the earth was flat and told us otherwise, what do you think they was trying to hide. GOD! Proverbs 30:4 KJV 4Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? Psalms 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed As you can see hear, the leaders of the world are against God, and His anointed. Do not think, that they are of good will. Job 26:10 He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end. What else can this possibly mean, other than a boundary for the waters. Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? I have never seen a footstool that is a sphere. Revelations 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. I have never seen a sphere with four corners, have you? Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven; Heaven is above, and from there God sees the entire earth, from one end to the other. Job 37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth. Deuteronomy 13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Isaiah 40:21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth? Jeremiah 25:33 And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground. Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: This suggests a firmament in the shape of a tent or dome. Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit of heaven. I find this one interesting because if thick clouds make it to where he seeth not, how then can He see through the globe on the other side. And if He just walks around, whats the point of even saying thick clouds are a covering. This is also tied in with- Job 28:24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth, and seeth under the whole heaven; Psalms 104:5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. Proverbs 8:29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth
So if you're not interest in the truth and ignore the numerous proofs put forward, why would you ask if anyone has any proof the world is not flat? Where you just trolling?
Those are words written by men. This thread is about proof the Earth is not flat, which I (and others) have given you numerous examples of, which you've ignored. If you want to discuss whether the Bible says the Earth is flat, start a thread on that.
There you go again, you have provided zero proof. There is no proof of a globe earth. The Bible says God put two light sources in the firmament, science says there is only one light source. God says He will have the four angels at the four corners of the earth stop the winds. Science says there are no corners. God says the pillars of the earth shall tremble. Science says there are no pillars. God says He stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. Science says spacetime is infinite, there is nothing to dwell in. There are plenty more, but as you can see here, science is doing it's very best to destroy God. Everything the Bible says, scientists present a theory, that contradicts or is the opposite of God's word. Merely to have you believe that earth and life thereon, is nothing more than a mere cosmic coincidence. There is no cosmic or space, at least not as we are lead to believe. The lights and the stars He placed in the firmament, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass. Who do you believe, man or scripture (God's word)? The beauty of it, is it's your choice. The ugly of it, is the choice you make, nonetheless it's your choice.
I (and others) have given numerous, irrefutable proofs in this thread. Even without relying on pictures. You've just ignored it. The fact you continue to do so is because you don't care about seeking the truth. You simply just "take someone of high counsel's word for it, and then you sit back and say, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it! Completely oblivious to the truth."
The Bible says he hangs the earth upon nothing. The four winds are the Coriolis affect, the four corners are the four points of the compass, the pillars mention are the foundations of the continents, the second light is the moon reflecting the sun. The firmament is the sky.
The Heavens are His throne, and the earth His footstool. The coriolis affect does not exist. The four corners are the four corners. The pillars can tremble and shake. He has given us two light sources in the firmament, if the moon only shines reflected light from the sun, that is only one light source. - - - Updated - - - Isaiah4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Nehemiah 9:26 Nevertheless they were disobedient, and rebelled against thee, and cast thy law behind their backs, and slew thy prophets which testified against them to turn them to thee, and they wrought great provocations. Isaiah 1:5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. It is much easier to fool a man, than to convince him he has been fooled. -Mark Twain
