The fall of Australia's most senior Catholuc cleric

I wish Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao had not been such Bible Thumpers. Think of the lives that might have been saved.

 

I wrote most of it, not all of it?

 

Yes, and you were still wrong.

 

I don't see why any organization has to change its rules to satisfy anyone else. You don't want to be celibate? Fine, don't be a priest.

 

As a Catholic I've never understood this priest concept. Why would God ever want Priests not to have sex? I mean if God created beautiful women, why should his most faithful of followers have to be denied that. Clearly it doesn't work and they get such a horny rage that they have to molest alter boys? Clearly , something is wrong here.
Catholicism got this wrong! When these priests (the non-molesters) go to Heaven God is gonna be like "hey stupid, thanks for your service and all but why the hell did you deny yourself women?". Time for a re-vamp!

 

time to raid the vatican and all it's vaults worldwide... lots of artifacts they don't want the world to see...

 

Name one.

 

Indeed so. It's so endemic throughout those two religions, even in the HQ of the Vatican, that the default has to be that they are perverts unless they can prove otherwise.

 

I don't either, especially if that organization wants to be plagued with centuries worth of pedophilia and boogering. Yes, it would be conducive to just that.

 

It isn't "plagued." I have cited articles from non-catholic sources that explain all this. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

It is not "endemic".

Even the accusations are uncommon, and spread out over decades, but every accusation -- how do we know they are a true? -- is trumpeted by bigoted ignoramuses desperate to show a pattern and bring down the organization that established the first hospitals, the first orphanages, and continues to do good work for the poor all over the world?

Do you do more?

 

Semantics are fun to play, eh?

Would "embroiled in scandal" suit you better?

 

Dedicated and highly altruistic professionals did all of that, not bloody religious people. Whenever paedophilia is exposed in orphanages and other places where there are children, there's often a religious connection. In the following article, note mention of 'Sacré Coeur' - 'Sacred heart' sounds religious to me. Wherever there's a church affiliation it's because of the easy access to children.

"Haut de la Garenne proved false alarm but led to exposure of abuse there and at other children’s homes"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...r-investigation-brought-jersey-abuse-to-light

 

I don't know in what sense you are using the word "bloody," but the founders of hospitals and orphanages for the poor were Christian's acting under the auspices of the Roman Catholic church. Deal with it.

"During the middle ages the monasteries preserved to modern times the notion of the duty of the Churchto care for its orphans. They were the shelters where the orphans were taught learning and trade avocations. The laity also were exhorted to perform their share of this charge.

No one figure stands out so prominently in the history of the care of orphans as that of St. Vincent de Paul (1576-1660). To this work he attracted the gentlemen of the court, noble ladies, and simple peasants. In his distracted country he found the orphan the most appealing victim, and he met the situation with the skill of a general. No distinction was observed between foundlings and orphans in the beginning of his work with the Association of Charity; nor was there any distinction as to the condition of the children that were aided, other than that they were orphans, or abandoned, or the children of the poor. Seventeen years or more after that he established amongst noble women then "Ladies of Charity". "

Citations available if you really insist, but it's really common knowledge. Have you done more?

 

No. You're still grinding an axe. Fun to do, isn't it?

 

Not nearly as much fun as living in denial. They say it can be blissful.

 

Priests hold far to much power in the Catholic church and sexual predators are attracted to the job because of that power and the proximity to children.

Secondly, Priests need to be allowed to have sexual relationships(with other adults obviously).

 

When you have an agenda, and you do, it will make you say things like, "1) the Catholic church did not found hospitals, 2) did not establish the earliest orphanages, and 3) it promotes child abuse. 4) More priests, as a percentage of their total numbers, commit child abuse than high school teachers, rabbis, and married protest ministers."

Even though none of it is true.

 

So what you're telling me is that Haut de la Garenne - and there are plenty more like it - was a one-off, and that it was just bad luck that the children who found themselves there, believing that they would be cared for but were raped and abused instead by perverts with their own secret agenda, were just unlucky? Spare me your religion-driven 'citations'! I'll say again for your benefit - religion is the curse of mankind.

 

Most of them aren't in the least bit interested in having sexual relationships with adults.

 

I wouldn't say most but the position of Priest attracts predators for sure. Just like law enforcement attracts power hungry a-holes.

 

Lol. They aren't phony. It's history.

Please don't do anything for me. I wouldn't want to end up bitter and angry.

 

No it isn't.

 

That shows that the offending priests tend to be homosexual, not that most priests are homosexual, nor pedophiles, nor abusers. Literally no study anywhere has shown that they are.

There are 450,000 priests worldwide, less than 40,000 in the usa, and around 50,000 in the 50's and 60's when the greatest number of abuses were reported.

How many were accused of abuse? Less
than 5%.

The incidence if abuse in schools is higher, but I don't hear anyone generalizing about schoolteachers.

Or do I?

 

Bigotry. And I've shown this to be false. Statistics are your friend. And remember the stats are only about claims, not cases proved.