The Merck Manual says a Fetus is a baby

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    The Merck Manual is a well respected medical reference book. This is what they have to say about whether or nt a fetus is a human being or a baby:

    "A baby goes through several stages of development, beginning as a fertilized egg. The egg develops into a blastocyst, an embryo, then a fetus."

    http://www.merckmanuals.com/home/wo...lopment_of_the_fetus.html?qt=Pregnancy&alt=sh

    Read it and weap abortion promoting liars. A fertilized egg, blastocyst, embryo and a fetus are all babies.

    You pinheads crying for a subject matter expert, here is an unassailable one!!!
     
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    Good grief, it does not such thing. It says a fetus is a fetus:

    "Stages of Development of the Fetus"
     
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    Did you miss the part where it says, "A baby goes through several stages of development....."

    It helps to open the link. Nowhere does it say, "A fetus is a fetus."
     
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    Saw that. So? An adult goes through several stages of development as well. But an adult is not a baby; a baby is not a fetus; a fetus is not an embryo; an embryo is not a zygote.
     
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    Yeah, but it also says...''beginning as a fertilized egg. The egg develops into a blastocyst, an embryo, then a fetus."

    It means that that baby (now born) HAS gone through stages to become a baby. You are reading the meaning wrong.
     
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    That is funny, you are responding to a quote from the web site that exactly says that a baby is a fetus at one stage.

    Blind denial doesn't make your opinion seem very well reasoned.
     
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    An adult is an adult, a baby is a baby, got it. :roll:
    It obviously says a fertilized egg, embryo, and fetus are al lbabies.
     
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    Actually YOU are misreading it MAK. Something that does not exist cannot develop.
     
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    You probably shouldn't read Merck.. it requires basic critical thinking skills.
     
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    So.... do you claim to have a point? Or just typing more nonsense?
    It says what it says, does it not?
     
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    He's not reading from Merck. He's reading from the simplified "home edition" version, specially dumbed down for lay people to understand it. He appealed to authority and missed.
     
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    Appealed to authority? Not in the least. I have merely responded to those who claim that "subject matter experts" are who we should look to for the answer. There is the answer from Merck, an unassailable SME (which is likely why you and others have turned to attacking me instead of the actual link)
     
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    The zygote grows, through cell division, as he/she moves down the fallopian tube. The baby is the same entity from fertilization to birth.

    "The cells of the zygote divide repeatedly as the zygote moves down the fallopian tube."
     
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    Actually I know why you don;t want me to read the Merck manual, because it goves me everything I need to expose the pro abortion lies.
     
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    The egg exists and develops into a blastocyst, then an embryo, then a fetus. But a fetus does not exist at the embryo stage, and a baby does not exist until birth to one year.
     
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    Nowhere does it refer to a fetus as a baby:
     
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    FOCUS!

    This is not about what your notion of a baby is, this is about what Merck, a medical subject matter expert opinion is. :roll:
     
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    Perhaps you just failed to read the OP in your zeal to spout your own opinion of what a baby is, so I will repost the quote directly from the Merck web page:

    "A baby goes through several stages of development, beginning as a fertilized egg. The egg develops into a blastocyst, an embryo, then a fetus."
     
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    A house goes through several stages of development, beginning as a foundation. A foundation is a not a house.
     
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    Is a house a human being, or an animal of any kind?
    You seem very confused.
     
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    You are the confused one. Read up on analogies.
     
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    Is a concrete slab known as a "developing house"?
     
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    I did, it quoted yours under the category of poor analogies.
     

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