The Merck Manual says a Fetus is a baby

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You tried and you failed, miserably!

    Please learn what a VALID analogy is. There is no reasonable likeness here.
     
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    I think the caterpillar/butterfly analogy works the best here. It is an organism going through a series of stages of development and one is never the other. It is always changing and so is it's title. It is still an insect, like a fetus is still human however a caterpillar is not a butterfly like how a fetus is not a baby.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Only a human being does not undergo metamorphosis. So you should read up on human development and take another look.
     
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    No, now it seem that it simply is not within your capability.
    They are not supposed to be alike, the development processes are similar.
     
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    Not even slightly similar!

    Does a house have everything within itself from the first beginning stage, say the foundation, that is required to complete the entire building process?
     
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    You mean the blueprint? What do you think, that houses are built without plans? The zygote does not have "everything" in either. It does not have organs or bones. They develop during the construction, I mean gestation period and when complete they are a baby.
     
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    :laughing:

    "Blueprint" ? How stupid is that. Is a blueprint capable of becoming a house without the addition of any additional materials?

    The analogy of a house and a child in utero is idiotic as your comments make plainly obvious.
     
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    I don't know. At what level do you think you are?

    Is that zygote not added any more materials? For what is the woman needed then?

    Your inability or unwillingness to comprehend does not alter the validity of the analogy.
     
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    Merely for the condusive environment and food.

    Give it up, your assertion that a house is just like a human being is idiotic to the extreme.
     
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    Is it not that food that is transformed into the cells that will make up the the fetus and eventually the baby? You think that matter just appears out of thin air?
     
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    Give it up, your argument is assinine.
     
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    Whaler17 Said: "A house is not an organism. Try again with an analogy that isn't completely idiotic."

    A house is not an organism; but a butterfly is an organism! The life cycle is: (1)Egg, (2)Caterpillar, (3)Pupa, and (4)Butterfly (see illustration below). Which of these four stages is a butterfly?

    Of course, one could say stages 1, 2 and 3 are each a "butterfly" (in different stages of development). But others would say an egg is not a butterfly, especially when it's about to become a caterpillar!


    Butterfly Cycle.jpg
     
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    You posts are of course, they have always been, as evidenced by the fact that you are not capable of discussing the topic.
     
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    If a fetus is deprived of the oxygen and nutrients it gets via the placenta, it will be stillborn.
     
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    Abortion was legalized by the Supreme Court...

    Fallacy based upon "Appeal to Authority"...?

    The citizenry have never been able to vote on it...it was railroaded into law
    by bad law thanks to a liberal Supreme Court circa 1973.

    Most legal analysts agree Roe V. Wade is a poor interpretation of Constitutional law.

    9 people ruled on it, with virtually no opportunity for the citizenry to have a say..or the States...
     
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    If you like semantics...

    When was the last time the citizenry voted on rights?

    Nothing was railroaded anywhere. Unconstitutional laws were struck down.

    Educate yourself about the law and the Supreme Court. The court does not pass or make laws.

    Really? Why does it still stand, even when the political atmosphere was most favorable?

    When rights will be subject to popular vote then maybe you will have a point.
     
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    The citizenry shouldn't even be allowed to vote on what individual women do with their uteruses. It is and should always remain something between a woman and her doctor since it directly involves her physical, emotional and mental health. What a woman does with her uterus is most definitely NOT the business of the citizenry.
     
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    NOPE!

    Homicides are always the business of society as whole!
     
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    How does this make a house like a human being?
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    NOPE! My uterus my choice!

    See I can post pointless 1 liner drivel too.
     
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    The other abortion promoter is WRONG. What does the friggin' Merck Manual know about value judgements?
     
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    aSK HIM/HER!!!!
     

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