The Merck Manual says a Fetus is a baby

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  1. prometeus

    prometeus Banned

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    Can I use this in my signature line?
     
  2. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You cannot use anything I post in your signature line.
     
  3. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Obviously a word means what its generally accepted meaning is.
    In the case of "baby" it includes a child in utero, since commonly these human beings are referred to as "babies".
     
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    Adult children, spouses, pets, cars and projects are commonly referred to as "babies," but only in informal context.
     
  5. Whaler17

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    I don't understand why you think there is a point in that statement.
     
  6. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I used to refer to my cat as my 'baby'. I'd call my mum up and ask 'How's my baby', and she knew exactly what I meant.
    Doesn't mean my cat actually was a baby, though.
     
  7. Whaler17

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    AGAIN, then why the vehement denials that a fetus is a baby? It is OBVIOUSLY not as tightly defined a term as you and your ilk have claimed before.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    I don't care if you call it a baby or not. It doesn't matter. That isn't going to change my mind on the subject of abortion.
     
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    It obviously has multiple meanings, just like most words. Not all meanings fit every context, though, and particularly when accuracy important, like the attempt to change public policy.

    So why the vehement emotional demands that a fetus is a baby? An "unborn baby" is obviously not the same thing as a born baby. Emotional appeal is a logical fallacy in debate.
     
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    GREAT! Then shut up about it.
     
  11. Whaler17

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    Then ALL pro choice debate points are logical fallacy!!! They are ALL emotion based.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    And claiming that a fetus is 'slaughtered, dismembered, and abused' when aborted is not?
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's obvious which side presents facts and which one relies on emotional manipulation. "The Silent Scream" is a perfect example.
     
  14. Whaler17

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    Never said that. I am merely saying stop throwing stones from your glass double wide.
     
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    It is obvious that so called "pro choicers" are all about emotion based arguments.
     
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    So in these instances you were just thinking about it or you do not remember what you say or you are not telling the truth?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...ion-early-stages-pregnancy-3.html#post3749193

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...in-life-begins-conception-23.html#post3460008

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...k-should-we-abort-our-baby-3.html#post3160074

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...k-should-we-abort-our-baby-3.html#post3160074

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...tus-not-part-mothers-body-28.html#post2947877

    Those are just some of the post in which you said or implied that fetuses are slaughtered.

    These are the ones where you are referring to dismemberment and agreeing with the term used in connection with abortion:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...cs-landlord-outside-school-2.html#post4494350

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/152467-abortion-related-bumper-stickers-18.html#post3029839

    http://www.politicalforum.com/abort...being-no-theology-allowed-13.html#post2439535
     
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    OK, now show me where I said they weren't slaughtered.

    Yeah, I didn't. They are!

    Pat attention, I was saying that I never said there wasn't emotion involved in those arguments. READ for cryin out loud!
     
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    But you are accusing US of using emotion in our arguments, when in every one of your arguments, there is even MORE emotion!
     
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    Read back through Mak. I was reponding to a pro abortion poster who claimed all of our arguments are emotion based. There is certainly NOT MORE emotion in pro life arguments than pro abortion ones.
     
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    Why do you make claims that you can't support?
     
  21. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You apparently have me mistaken for someone else.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do you make claims you can't support and then say your don't?
     
  23. prometeus

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    I guess I misunderstood you and thought you were claiming that you did not say it. My apologies.
    Then again, if you admit using emotional appeal why do you fault others who do too?
     
  24. Whaler17

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    The better question here is why do you post such inane garbage, but I know the answer. It is all you got! :no:
     
  25. Whaler17

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    HELLO McFly, I was responding to a pro abortion poster who did that!
     

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