The Merck Manual says a Fetus is a baby

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  1. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Classic projection defense mechanism!
     
  2. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that could be your problem too!
     
  3. Colonel K

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    It's definitely yours, along with the dissembling and misrepresentation. Very unhealthy.
     
  4. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Well see you have presented nothing of value here, just an unwarranted attack with no basis in reality and no support posted. So I can make a much stronger case that your debating technique is far more "unhealthy" than mine.
     
  5. Cady

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    What about this pro-life sign? Is it emotional manipulation or fact based? Notice it's a picture of a post-birth child, but the message seems to imply that children like this one will die in abortions.

    Factual or emotional manipulation?
     
  6. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one, then.
     
  7. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    So you refuse to read back through the thread? NO you lose this one if you are too lazy to back up your assertion.
     
  8. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Also notice the implication that choosing NOT to give up a year of her life for pregnancy and recovery plus 18 years of caring for a child is motivated purely by selfishness--"so that you may live as you wish."
     
  9. Whaler17

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    You have failed to prove that this is not fact based.
     
  10. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your job, but since you can't, I understand why you would resort to this dodge.
     
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    It's a scientific fact that human life begins at conception. It's a matter of opinion as to whether or not life has any meaning/value at such an early stage of life.

    Do we all agree that this is an accurate distiction?

    Dave Santor
    Writer for The Merck Manual
    davesantor@yahoo.com
     
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  12. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    It is your assertion cupcake, prove it or admit you lied, again.
     
  13. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mother Teresa was expressing a subjective opinion, which means it was based on feelings or emotion, not facts. A subjective opinion can't be proven.

    More emotional manipulation:

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    How old is the child in this picture? I'm pretty sure she is too old to be aborted.
     
  14. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Again, are you claiming the statement on the billboard is false?

    It is factual. You fail again.

    I don't see any mention of abortion on the billboard.
    Maybe it is just your guilt telling you it is there.
     
  15. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, actually I agree with the statement, "a person is a person," but the implication from citizensforlife.org is that abortion kills a person, and that is not factual. Seriously, you think this isn't an anti-abortion billboard? What is the point of it, then?
     
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    An abortion clearly kills a person. You are mistaken. How can a fetal homicide kill a person, but an abortion kills the same fetus and he or she is suddenly not a person because the killer was his/her mother?
     
  17. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is only your subjective opinion based on feelings or emotions, not fact.
     
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    PP citizens for life is an advocacy group opposing abortion and euthenasia, so in referring to SMALL lives which do you think they mean?
     
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    Once again you are spouting off about things you apparently do not understand.

    Show me how an abortion is not a homicide.
     
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    I don't see all that information on the billboard, so it seems it is left to the interpretation of the reader.
     
  21. Cady

    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand perfectly that it has never been established by a consensus of scholars that a zygote, embryo or fetus is a person.

    I was hoping you would attempt to defend your assertion...

    but you have only denied the obvious and deflected. You should change your name to Weasel17.
     
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    Actually it clearly does not, never did.

    yea, you say that a lot, but never show any evidence.

    It does not.
     
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    Well you have yet to demonstrate an understanding of any of this.

    Asking to prove a negative in a debate? Not a good strategy and it does not demonstrate a grasp of the issue.
     
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    You do not? come on, no one has that bad reasoning ability, not even you.

    Leave it to you to misinterpret even that.
     
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    Welcome to the debate, hope you will stay for more that just this clarification, for which I am sure we all are grateful.
     

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