The state is now buying guns for Teachers

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No reasonable person would believe that someone willing to risk the consequences of committing murder would not risk the consequences of breaking a gun law.
    Would you disarm armored car guards?
     
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    I wouldn't. They have something to protect, something thieves go after traditionally....*careful, don't rush in with the obvious.*

    You did not answer this. Why?

     
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    I will answer this, constitutional rights can be abrogated by due process of a law and minors do not enjoy many rights until they hit age 18
     
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    perhaps some believe that are children are more valuable than the contents of an armored car. Gun laws cannot be imposed on criminals.
     
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    So money in an armored truck is of greater value than children to you? Most armored car robberies involve the guards as conspirators.

    So you'd arm people more likely to commit crimes than people that dedicate their lives to children?

    That is ****ing messed up. When they took away your guns down under they took away all of your sense too
    Incorrect. People that have been adjudicated have face due process of law.
     
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    Love explaining things to people who don't read.

    The Constitution is free to look at. Makes me wonder what kind of lawyer a person is if they didn't read the law.
     
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  7. Bush Lawyer

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    Did you not see this warning?

    Despite being tipped off, you came right in with the obvious!!!!!

    Of course money is no more valuable than the life of one child, just like the right to bear arms at all is not more valuable than the life of a child.

    It's like fishing with a naked hook around here.

    No, I'd disarm the lot of you, or I'd arm the entire lot of you, including kids, felons and the insane. Choose your poison.
     
  8. Polydectes

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    Taking me not to poke holes in your argument who cares
    so you made a **** argument knowing it was ****
    the right to bear arms doesn't cost the life of a child it's actually gun control that cost them their lives.

    You know when you make guns illegal the only people that have guns are outlaws. Why do you think these things take place at schools? It's because the killers no that there's gun control there and I can kill us many people as they want likely without getting stopped.

    Suspension of the second amendment as well as incompetent law enforcement and confidence School regulations that costs children their lives.

    So you desperately trying to prove that your country didn't **** you over by taking away your ability to defend yourself actually leads to more death not less.
    if you're trying to catch used tires and discarded beer cans Maybe.

    The truth is you don't know or you're in denial of what actually costs children their lives and it is gun control


    If you correct for all of the cartels and drug/gang related shootings and the suicides our country is safer than yours.

    We've already proved you wrong on gun control. You're a suicide rate is a little lower than ours so most of the deaths related to guns I'm still happen in your country it's just they do it bother means or maybe even guns since guns aren't banned in Australia.

    So the trade-off isn't worth it it was just given the cartel more freedom to intimidate and push around people it will give our government more freedom to build concentration camps to threaten to stick Us in if we don't get fake vaccines like your country did.

    So I'm far more concerned about the original government genocide that I am about making people have to jump over in a pretty pathetic legal hoop commit suicide.

    So much for you naked hook. Seems all you're catching here is tire Bass.
     
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  9. philosophical

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    It seems the logical extension of the case being made about the right to bear arms in the context of school shooters.
     
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    There is gun control in the UK and it doesn’t cost children their lives.
     
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    it costs lots of people freedom and England is now far more dangerous than it was before the country had a collective bed wetting over one school shooting about 27 or so years ago
     
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    Those who want to carry firearms will be required to go through a permit process that includes one-time, in-person legal training that covers qualified immunity, emergency medical training and communication training, as well as regular firearm training and "live scenario" training

    What part of "as well as regular firearm training" did you not understand.
     
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    FFS man. This isnt about HOW to use the gun, its about WHEN to use the gun....

    I've been thru the classes, they are a JOKE. I have my CCP......I KNOW what the class is, and its a JOKE !!!!
     
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    How apt that you reveal your ignorance by conflating the UK with England by referencing the Dunblane massacre which happened in Scotland.
    As for the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland being more dangerous, less dangerous, or at the same level of danger, do you really want to go down that road with comparison to America?
    The latest data has the UK gun related deaths per 100,000 people is 0.24 (less that half the rate even in the Republic of Ireland) however in the United States of America is 10.84.
    I wonder which country has most endangered children.
    I wonder which country has the most wet beds, or which country has the most sodden pillows from the tears of the bereaved.
     
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    I find it hysterical that you claim I am ignorant about law.

    the USA -in the last THIRTY years has added over 200 million more guns-many of them are the semi auto firearms that cause so much feigned hatred from the left

    Millions of lawful Americans can now carry firearms concealed-either due to SHALL ISSUE permits or in almost a third of the states constitutional carry

    YET DESPITE THESE CHANGES-our rates of violent crime and gunshot murder rates have DECREASED

    England's rate of violent crime has increased since Dunblane. now the clowns in power are trying to ban pocketknives
     
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    So you're saying you shouldn't have a gun. Interesting.

    Also, please note that you're utilizing a logical fallacy. You're assuming the training these folks will get is the same as what you will get in a CCW/CPL/CWL.

    Since the training I quoted clearly mentioned active shooter drills, is that something you trained in for your CCP?

    Let me just go ahead and answer that with a "no", because I know you didn't.

    If what you're saying is true, then most POLICE aren't qualified to carry a firearm, since most police train very little with their firearms.

    You made up a bunch of false claims in your OP, and now you're trying to rationalize the obvious flaws in your argument.
     
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    This is surreal. Like you’re suggesting that because America has so many guns per head of population it is a safer place for those kids, and if only the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland had the same proportion of guns per head can a comparison be made.
    You are certainly ignorant about the UK.
     
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    what I am suggesting is we are freer and nothing the anti gun left proposes will make us safer-just less free
     
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    My state requires all teachers have a CPR, AED, and First Aid certification. Why?
     
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    So school shootings are not common. Got it.
     
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    Link? Never heard of that.
     
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    So they can assist students who are being impacted with a health issue.

    *Come right in, the door is wide open.*
     
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    So 'freeer,' that 'you' are slaughtering parts of your population on a weekly basis with guns.

    Is that 'freedom,' or is it just gun nuts wanting to have toys despite the fact that those very toys are the means by which the people are being massacred?
     
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    no and you know that. when people call guns toys it proves my point that their anti gun advocacy is not based on an erroneous belief of crime control but rather they have a cultural loathing of freedoms-and those who defend those freedoms-that they often do not have or are afraid to exercise
     

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