The Truth is Dawning on Trumpian insurrectionists

Clearly. it's got nothing to with this supposed "danger", they just don't want him to beat them in 2024. That's it. Every other reason they're throwing out there is a lie.

 

No, as I have stated quite clearly it was also motivation for Pence to invoke the 25th in order to immediately remove him from power.
If you have trouble comprehending my posts don't hesitate to ask for further clarification. I have endless patience for people who struggle to understand clear statements and am happy to keep repeating myself until you understand.

 

You're not being clear at all. We're talking about two separate potential actions. Regarding impeachment, you said this:

We agree on that. The Dems clutching their pearls about the "danger" President Trump poses is all dishonest hyperbole. Their motivation for wanting to impeach him is to bar him from running in 2024, because they're afraid he'll beat them.

The second action that has been discussed is Vice-President Pence invoking the 25th Amendment. I think the people who might have supported that have already resigned from the Cabinet, but anyways, let's pretend a majority of the Cabinet might support Vice-President Pence. You stated:

I'm not seeing that motivation for him, but if you are, kudos to you, we ought to know by tomorrow if it's a real motivation or not.

 

Wanting to remove Trump from office immediately as he is a danger to the peaceful transfer of power and wanting him to never be in a position to run the country again are not contradictory aims.
They both point to him being incapable of performing his duties.

 

Claiming "we need to impeach him right now because he's such a threat to the country, and we can't afford to wait one more week for him to be out of office through the normal process" but also saying you're going to wait 100+ days before transmitting the articles to the Senate IS contradictory.

 

If jail time is outcome I agree

 

Who claimed that?
The claim was remove by invoking the 25th or I shall begin the impeachment process.

 

I don't unerstand why he wouldn't do that.

He's already padoned criminals who acted against America.

And, he's made statements indicating that he's seriously interested in being politically active after he leaves office.

These ARE his people.

... wll, those and most Republicans in office.

 

that's why he should never been nominated with the stench he brings

 

He's already thrown them under the bus. Did you not see that speech his lawyers forced him to read. He knows he cannot continue to side with the violence. He may be a moron but he's not stupid.

 

Impeachment presents an opportunity to prevent him from ever holding any high office again.

The Republican party remains excited about Trump. And, he's stated that he would consider running again.

 

God forbid the citizenry chooses to vote for the guy they like in another election. God forbid he wins and does nothing to warrant removal again.

"Elitism" doesn't begin to describe what an insult that would be to democratic pluralists or participatory theorists. And it's ironic is that those folks cheer for impeachment - the "direct democracy" types. They're cheering as their fellow countrymen are preemptively denied the chance to vote for a candidate in the future by slimy political careerists.

 

Bailing out rioters is Kamala Harris' schtick.

 

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Let's see how many of them get their bail paid for by Trump......

Deserting his followers is trump's schtick.... hope they appreciate his "bailout" on them

 

Yes, and as I've said, this is the true reason they want to impeach him. His political opponents are afraid he'll beat them in 2024. If they weren't, there wouldn't be this push to impeach him and disqualify him from running again.

I'll also note, that preventing one's political opponents from holding / running for office is exactly the sort of actions that have heralded authoritarian regimes throughout history.

 

...and keeping criminals out of office is a mark of a functioning democracy.
We can all play the hyperbole game.

 

then why aren't you criticizing her for not bailing out traitor trump's terrorist step stormers?

 

Various democrats. Nancy, for one prominent example:
"The situation of this unhinged president could not be more dangerous, and we must do everything that we can to protect the American people from his unbalanced assault on our country and our democracy"

 

Those who purposefully incite terrorism against our nation shouldn't just be denied office - they NEED to be in PRISON.

It doesn't take any sort of genius to figure that out.

 

I have yet to see Trump do anything like that. Obviously it would be prison-worthy if he did.

 

NO. Authoritarian regimes come from EXACTLY the kind of action that Trump has instigated.

There is NO REASON that America needs to tollerate terrorist assaults on our form of goverenment.

These actions are criminal.

And, EVERY last participant from Trump on down to the lowliest ****** who broke in and threatened congress needs to be charged with felony murder - let alone all the rest of the crimes they committed.

Suggesting we should allow such an indiidual to be PRESIDENT is just one of the basic reasons that the Republican party no longer stands for ANYTHING even remotely related to America.

 

"Beat them in 2024"?

After what happened on Jan.6th, Trump WOULDN'T have a prayer of being elected in 2024.
^Whether he was prevented from running or not.

Trump IS DELUSIONAL (On Steroids) With No Grasp of Reality, IF he even think there is a prayer of him being elected again after what happened on the 6th.

People like Hawley and Cruz (in terms of any realistic shot the the Presidency) have also committed political suicide.

Personally, If I were a member of the GOP, I would be 100% in favor of Trump being stripped of his ability to run in 2024.

1) Every other potential candidate would have to wait for Trump's decision.
Which would be detrimental to early fundraising.

2) The cooler heads of the GOP are acutely aware that a 2024 Trump Nomination would lead to a Catastrophic Defeat of Trump and the GOP.
Which would have a huge ripple effect of losses in down-ballot races.

Trump as the 2024 GOP Nominee is a Complete non-starter, unless the Leaders of the GOP want to.permanently destroy the Party.

 

Oh goodie, someone else who doesn't understand how our laws work. Felony murder doesn't apply. Sorry. Try again.

 

you mean the same Nancy that traitor trump's terrorists were searching hard for to torture and murder?

 

You really think Trump has a political future in this country? I don't think his behavior over the last two months has caused many independents and Democrats to swing over to his camp. Jeb Bush said Trump would be a chaos president. A few people are beginning to believe it. Even one or two Republicans.