The U.S. should never have been shutdown.

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    You wrote with gleeful enthusiasm.... Does it ever bother you to write stuff like this?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good post Dayton3. A percentage of our population think they can control nature.
    Wake up people, Mother Nature is and always has been out to kill all living beings be it through volcanoes, Ice ages, disease, or whatever else she can throw at us. The only reason any livings things remain is through adaptation.
    We can lock ourselves down, seal ourselves in masks and plastic, and make thousands of posts all over the internet but guess what, nearly everyone will sooner or later be exposed to someone or something that is carrying the Chinese virus.

    With luck, there will be medications that can ease and shorten the severity of this virus, and maybe someday there may even be a vaccine that can knock it out before mother nature allows it to mutate to another form. Until then, expect the politicians to run around making hit and miss demands on the publics' constitutional rights be it out of fear or purely political reasons, and meanwhile, the economy of the world is being destroyed in the process.
    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    The WHO official that you are misquoting was specifically referring to Sweden as a model for how to operate an economy after it has re-opened. The WHO still believes that Sweden's model of not shutting down was a mistake.
     
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    There was absolutely nothing in his post that suggests gleeful enthusiasm.
     
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    Yet another thing the WHO was wrong about.
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you actually believe this tripe then there are there are hospitals, mortuaries, janitorial services, meat packers who could use your help.

    No PPE required.
     
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    We disagree.
     
  8. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Hmm... Kreskow.... Who knew it was you...
     
  9. truth and justice

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    SARS hardly killed or infected anyone worldwide - less than 1000 deaths and less than 10,000 infected in the whole world. There are successful antivirals for HIV. Hence my statement is true.

    What you've heard is not based on anything scientific. The virus is already suspected from mutating from a milder form into a more severe form
     
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    None of those countries are neighbours of Sweden! Finland and Norway are. Sweden is doing terribly. Four to 5 percent daily increase in deaths
     
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    Who cares?

    They are only delaying herd immunity, while causing unneeded damage to their economy.

    Have already told you they are doing better than a number of European nations that did lockdowns.
     
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    Which only proves that the entire fiasco was man made to achieve political objectives.
    You just admitted that the CDC has directed thousands if not tens of thousands of deaths that were not proven to be covid19, were directed to be attributed to covid19 anyway.
    Like the Flynn situation, the truth can only be hidden for so long.

    I would rather people not use every crisis to advance a political agenda.
    "Never let a good crisis go to waste"
    Rahm Emanuel, Democrat, IL
     
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    Figures don't lie but liars certainly do figure.

    The population density in Sweden is 63/SqM.
    The population density in France is 309/Sqm. .

    Sweden has suffered a death rate of 3,145 per million. France with 5 times the population density has suffered 2,538 deaths per million, 20% less.

    Sweden's numbers are low because of a low population and low population density but their deaths per million is 20% higher that a country with a much higher pure numbers.
     
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    The truth is, thanks to erroneous, knee jerk policies by the CDC and other agenda bent government departments, for all we know the
    actual death count from COVID19 could be as low as 10,000 - 20,000

    With the remaining ambiguous deaths related to comorbidity or outright erroneous reporting.

    We have the highly politicized FBI now appearing to operate on purely political based agendas, the Law be damned.
    Who in their right mind is going to completely trust other government agencies, such as the CDC at this point?
    And God forbid only a moron would trust the CCP controlled WHO.

    To adopt a policy of shutting down the global economy because a few people "might" die is a far more deadly path.

    Fear Mongering over the COVID19 has run rampant for political agendas. The truth WILL come out eventually. The Left is forever in a state of Fear Mongering be it Climate Change (Miami Florida was supposed to be totally underwater by now according the the Left 20 years ago) or whenever there is a crisis to exploit.
    Weak minds are very easy to commandeer with fear.

    I am 100% certain that the fear mongering path taken with this so called pandemic is 180 degrees opposite of what would have taken place had a Democrat been in the White House.

    We are still in a sphere or ambiguity. So people are still able to run with this political bomb with little resistance.
     
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    Those who carry out proper comparisons. To make it simple for you, Sweden, Norway and Finland are similar countries with similar population demographics. Can add Denmark to the comparison too if you like


    Sweden are doing terribly and not improving:

    Sweden : current daily percentage increase in deaths: 4.2%
    Norway:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 0.5%
    Finland:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 1.1%
    Denmark: current daily percentage increase in deaths: 1.5%
    Belgium:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 1.2%
    UK:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 1.4%
    France:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 0.7%
    Spain:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 0.9%
    Italy:current daily percentage increase in deaths: 0.9%
    Netherlands: current daily percentage increase in deaths: 1.3%

    And US: current daily percentage increase in deaths during half-hearted lockdown: 2.7%
     
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    Right, And Flynn was guilty as charged :rolleyes:

    I think intelligent people can clearly see a YUGE pattern of deception across the board and realize this is yet another crisis to be exploited for political gain.
    What was that Rahm Emanuel said again?

    Across the nation, emergency rooms devoid of all those covid19 patients. EMPTY.
    EXCEPT, in the BLUE strongholds. Things that make you go hmmmmm
    To continue believing every manufactured crisis would be rather ignorant in itself.

    A few have probably died of strictly covid19. God rest their souls.
    But why anyone would want to kill off billions by destroying the global economy? Seems evil.
     
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    Pot, meet kettle.

    You're ignoring the deaths that result from the shutdowns and horrible economy. Sweden is getting to herd immunity faster, the rest are simply delaying it while destroying their economy for no reason.
     
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    See post #42.
     
  19. MrTLegal

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    That is a bunch of conspiratorial nonsense. People are dying in their home from Covid-19 and those deaths are not being recorded accurately. The very likely fact is that we are undercounting the number of covid-19 deaths, not overcounting.
     
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    Are you basing this on hindsight?
     
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    Sweden's economy and death rate are all doing worse than their neighbors.
     
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    Is it really a "fact" if it's only "very likely?"
     
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    There is no scientific proof that being infected provides immunity to the virus or the degree of time that immunity will apply.
     
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    Right, and you know this because the same people who cried 'Russian Collusion" and "Flynn is guilty" told you so. (Speaking of conspiratorial nonsense)
    Or, you get your info from the Chinese Communist party controlled WHO.
    Sorry, but the deaths you want to scare people with are NOT there except in the news.
    Like I said, a FEW have died from covid19. The rest is Global Warming hysteria.
    But you can keep believing the drivel and fear mongering if you choose.

    Geebus!
     
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    Oh for God's sake. It's NATURE !

    Does the Fear Mongering NEVER end?
     

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