The U.S. should never have been shutdown.

Dr. Birx, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Gupta, the WHO, the CDC, the Chief Medical Officers for nearly every State.

Do you really want to pretend that I do not have the weight of the medical and scientific community behind my position that this virus is a deadly and contagious threat?

 

Similar to the idiotic beach and park shutdowns, remember FL was supposed to be the new NYC because they didn't do that? Families have been ticketed for being the only ones in a park. Your chances of getting the virus while outside and proper social distancing is slim to none.

 

All sources who have been wrong numerous times during this crisis.

 

I never said that I don't know anyone (I do). But you asked whether I know of hundreds.

It's ****ing dumb.

 

If not for herd immunity, mankind would not exist.

Even if that were true, some people would still go.
That's why so many tens of thousands of hospital beds, ventilators and other resources were brought to ready for the onslaught.......

But were never needed.

 

There is absolutely no clear evidence that there will be a "herd" immunity.

"We have listened with concern to voices erroneously suggesting that herd immunity may “soon slow the spread”1 of COVID-19. For example, Rush Limbaugh recently claimed that “herd immunity has occurred in California.” As infectious disease epidemiologists, we wish to state clearly that herd immunity against COVID-19 will not be achieved at a population level in 2020, barring a public health catastrophe."

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/from-ou...ty-against-covid-19-a-dangerous-misconception

That last word is important, CATASTROPHE.

As for the deaths we are experiencing because of the shutdown, pray tell me all of the deaths that occurred because people couldn't:
Get a haircut;
Dye their roots;
Go to the movies;
Eat in Fuddruckers;

Or anything else you'd like to claim was caused by the shutdown.

If you're desperate hospitals, nursing homes, funeral homes, and meat packers near you are desperate for help. No PPE required.

 

What is your best estimate of the mortality rate of this virus?

 

What is the projected lifespan of people 75+ with serious underlying health issues? What do you think they would pay for life insurance?

 

Thanks for the block quote, "counselor." ROFL.

 

The Virus.

 

Non-responsive. What is your best estimate for the mortality rate of the virus?

 

I have been looking forward to not dying one day. So glad to hear that is now possible. Hooray.

 

I am not going to act like people who died within the 2-3 week span of getting the virus should be dismissed because they would have died at some point in the future from some other cause.

 

Fake news.

As far as I'm concerned, the UK is nearly as bad as China as far as propaganda these days.
It is well known and reported that the UK no longer allows the free flow of information. local authorities don't even trust police reports.
Something terrible has happened to the UK over the last 80 years or so.

Did you know that until recently, gun ownership in the UK was very common?
You've been told otherwise, so probably not.

The UK has become "European Unionized", and the European Union has become "Globalized". Are you familiar with the terms European Union and Globalists?

 

"The U.S. suicide rate was 12.1 per 100,000 from 1920 to 1928 during the Roaring Twenties. After the stock market crash of 1929, the suicide rate skyrocketed 50% to 18.1 per 100,000. The suicide rate over the next decade of economic depression (1930-1940) stayed at a terribly high 15.4 per 100,000, until the national emergency of World War II, when it declined significantly.

Unemployment is a well-established risk factor for suicide. In fact, 1 in 3 people who die by suicide are unemployed at the time of their deaths. For every one-point increase in the unemployment rate, the suicide rate tends to increase .78 points. One of the silent drivers of our current suicide crisis is the high percentage of working-age men not participating in the labor force."

Psychology Today

Those deaths don't count?

 

I see no evidence of any of those places hiring substantial numbers of people. That post sounds like something the idiot from New York (Cuomo) said.

 

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Keep -obviously- sliding and spamming this thread and I will start making compilation posts keeping all the clear, valid points from other posters and myself bumped. You aren't fooling anyone.

 

Non-responsive. What is your best estimate for the mortality rate of the virus?

 

...Alright man. I see that you are just all about that conspiracy. You are welcome to keep going down that rabbit hole.

 

imo it has been so politicized that an accurate number will remain as an unknown in an unsolvable equation. Never known.

 

Pretty well established that the mortality rate is about 3% for anyone who is symptomatic (not 3% of those infected).

 

Right.
It was a "Conspiracy theory" that Flynn was not guilty....until evidence came out that he actually wasn't.
It was a "Conspiracy theory" that Russian collusion was a hoax. until it was proven that it was a hoax
It was a "Conspiracy theory" that Kavanaugh wasn't a rapist.....until it was proven he wasn't.

You people.

And you keep believing every thing they tell you.
Odd thing is that over time, almost all my "Conspiracy theories" were proven to be spot on. once in a while I miss, but not often.

COVID19 pandemic is a political ploy. Stay tuned.

 

Pretty well established...where?

 

In the 1930s there was no social net.

In 2009 at the height of the "Great Recession" with the unemployment rate approaching 12% the suicide rate was at 11.8 per 100k.
In 2017 the rate, with the unemployment rate at 4.1% the rate jumped to 14.0 per 100k.
Apparently employment rates are not the only contributor.

In 1929 things were different than in 2020.

Forcing everyone back into dangerous situations will not, over the longer haul, improve anything and will eventually force a much more drastic and longer shutdown.

 

Who said anything about hiring?

If you want to get sick and die;
If you want to prove you won't get sick;
There's your opportunity.
Prove us all wrong.