This is the moment when conservatives needs to stand up and fight!

I'm not telling that to an armed mob hell-bent on overthrowing the government, like Trump was. Just to fight for their party POLITICALLY.

 

Oh yeah I'm sure.... You both said you have to fight.

But it's different when you do it...
You're only talking about fighting the political party, so half the government..... Oh wait just like somebody else

 

Yeah because it's Republicans prosecuting predecessors into trying to get guns away from the people and trying to get us to accept 9% inflation oh wait...

Boots conservative with an ounce of integrity should ever listen to a Marxist on what they should be fighting for.

 

Hold on there. I DON'T call conservatives fascists. I am saying that conservatives are relinquishing their party to fascists. And that they'll lose it if they don't start acting now.

 

As a matter of fact, it IS.

 

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Lol so you're going to blame Republicans for mar a Lago?

 

What lies and misinformation, specifically, are the extreme left spewing right now?

 

I thought President Trump was voted out. Why do people like you keep bringing him up instead of praising your currently elected officials for the wonderful job they are doing for the TAXPAYING citizens of our country??

 

That the Inflation Reduction Act will reduce inflation.

 

Blame? You mean give credit! Remind me who appointed Christopher Wray?

To answer your question: yes! I give credit to a Republican for recovering the material that Trump stole!

There is hope that conservatives might yet recover the Republican Party from the fascists that run it today.

 

Not out of the GOP. I'm talking about the Republican Party. I urge you to read more carefully next time, before responding.

 

Okay. There are economists going on record stating that it will help a little bit in the short term but have positive effect in the long run. But if you see that as an example of lies and misinformation, I think there are many policies/bills that have been rolled out by both parties over the years that have been over hyped.

 

Presidents are elected in the Electoral College. Trump, rightly or wrongly attempted to have electors decertified based on claimsnof voter irregularities and fraud and replaced by state legislatures with slates supporting him as did the Dems in 2000, 2014 and against him in 2016, and those electors would have voted for him and he would have been elected.

So why do you paint it as "unelected". Had it happened he would have been elected just as would the Dem candidate had those Dem challenges succeeded.

 

Trump tried to circumvent the EC.

That is not all he tried to do. If it were, that would be one thing but it isn't.

Again, that's not all he tried.

Because he tried to circumvent the elections and the EC.

Again, not remotely the same thing. None of those Dems tried to send fake electors, none of those Dems tried to pressure the VP to simply not count 5 entire states or to ignore the actual EC votes of those states and go with illegal electors instead, and none of those Dems were trying to cause chaos and confusion in order to circumvent the EC entirely and put it to a House vote instead. And that's not even getting into the pressure campaigns on state officials.

 

There are economists who will say anything. Raise the tax on corporations and they will pass the cost onto the customer. That is called inflation. The CBO says it will not reduce inflation.

 

Nope he tried to use it in what he believed were legal challenges just as the Dems had.

Yes it is all he tried to do.

Nope that was the plan

By challenging electors during the voting as the Dems had.

ALTERNATE electors, theirs were just as "fake" as Trumps. Had the Dems won their challenges then a new slate of Electors would have been chosen by the state legislatures. Yes the Dems wanted Biden to accept their challenges, like Pence he ruled them down. And there were riots in the streets of DC as Clinton and the Dems proclaimed Hillary really won and it was the RUSSIANS who prevented it colluding with Trump. They also pressured electors to vote for Hillary instead of Trump but that backfired on them and more "faithless" electors voted for Trump.

 

Translation: You have not read the Eastman memo.

Translation: You have not read the Eastman memo.

Translation: You have not read the Eastman memo.

Translation: You have not read the Eastman memo. Hell, you have completely forgotten about the fake elector scheme . . . which you defended.

FAKE, ILLEGAL "electors." Not "alternate." Our nation has laws. Learn them.

Faithless electors are legal in some states. If that's all Trump had tried to work with, then fine. That's not what happened. Quit making up intellectually lazy, intellectually dishonest bull **** and actually try to learn what happened.

 

do you think that Conservatives, need to stand up and fight?

also, are you a trans?

 

Yes. Conservatives need to stand up and fight against the Trumpist poison.

No, and the rabid, irrational transphobia is part of what Conservatives need to fix.

 

You don't know it conservatives are.

 

Yes I have read and agree it never had a legal chance, but just as the Dems Trump tried to use the same rule in the EVA.

ALTERNATE electors, they had no official standing nor claimed one, had by some unbelievable reason electors WERE challenged by the Congress and sent back and the state legislature said OK here is our new slate, those were the one who the Reps would have chosen as the new one, far fetch for sure.

What is this plan you envision they had otherwise exactly? How was it going to work?

 

No Dem has ever tried the tactics in the Eastman memo. Neither has any Republican before Trump.

FAKE, ILLEGAL "electors."

Elector IS an official standing. Yes, they were claiming official standing.

Again, you really need to actually read the Eastman memo. You clearly haven't.

Read. The. ****ing. Eastman. Memo.

 

Not one actual weapon was at the mob.

 

Homework fail.