Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. cabse5

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    Their second stupid joke would be that Ukraine is a democracy.:roll:
     
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    Sure. Didn't you post earlier trying to claim Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine? Lol!
     
  3. Vernan89188

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    Who's exempt from that assumption?
     
  4. cabse5

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    Well, Politico lied and gaslighted about Trump lies for the entirety of Trump's presidency.
     
  5. Vernan89188

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    Doesn't explain whos exempt from being assumed to spreading misinformation.
     
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  6. Jack Hays

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    As I thought, your earlier claim was without foundation.
     
  7. Thingamabob

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    Do they really believe it?
     
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    Did I? Quote the post. It isn' that long. I said that I didn't believe your claims, which turned out to be a considerable exaggeration (no surprise there). I didn't say Russia wasn't selling uranium to Europe.
     
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    I don't believe a single element of that post.
     
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    Right you didn't believe it. And now you do. So again why is the EU still buying Russian uranium? If you don't know just say so. I don't know why they would be. It's just more money for Putin to support his economy and military.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:

    No kidding .. would be like Canada or Mexico giving the big middle finger to the US .. then inviting China or Russia to set up Military bases

    It be like .. "Seriously" WTF are you doing/thinking ? It would be just stupid for "Canada" to do such a thing- give head a shake shake.

    Now .. Ukraine -- doesn't have to love Russia .. no problem .. but why go out of way to intentionally piss them off .. mess with Strategic security of the Bear .. ?? Why would you do this .. not inadvertently .. but intentionally .... walking up to bear cage with big stick .. banging it on the cage .. trying to irritate .. Does anyone not feel a little less sorry for the fellow should Bear one day escape .. ?
     
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    Was there a conflict with a beloved necessary Illusion fella ?
     
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    Come on now Jack .. keep up with the times .. don't know about US meddling in the political affairs of Ukraine ? Meddling in the elections of other nations ..one the Pentagon's favorite Past times Jack .. don't tell me you didn't know that either ..

    Helped install a pro western leader ..and then put NATO on the Table .. crossing the Vlad Red Line .. which is a little different than the Obama line.. When Azov Nazi's crossed that line .. Vlad get mad mad mad .. and then bad bad bad .. now Ukraine is Sad Sad Sad

    Lookie there Jacko .. now you know why things went whacko ..
     
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    Just more propaganda.

    The Russian "Firehose of Falsehood" Propaganda Model
    https://www.rand.org › pubs › perspectives


    We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of ...
     
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    Because it wasn't Ukraine poking the bear. I'm sure Elon can figure it out. What's that code say happened in 2014 reference Ukraine? Who got censored? Who got amplified? What ideas were artificially inflated to appear as if they had overwhelming support?

    We need to know.
     
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    It was Ukraine .. at least playing the part of the willing stooge .. Nato being the main poker - USA being the main NATO entity .. pushing it .. the EU as the willing stooge .. and some in eastern Europe real dumb .. the ones offering space for the ABM's .. which is what you nuke first if ever there is a full scale launch.
     
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    I think they used social media to create an illusion of Ukrainian support for NATO that, although it exists now, did not in 2014. Because they probably censored and excluded anyone that didn't want to go NATO, and the masses never heard them.
     
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    Oh .. I see what you are saying .. definitely they were involved in some sophisticated meddling in the political process ... you had factions on both sides .... the MAIDAN Revolution - They got leader in who favors the west .. doesn't matter what the people think after that .. sure you keep the propaganda flowing .. try to stabilize .. while you push through legislation bring on the West.
     
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    You finally took my advice after almost a year waiting on the mop-up job thread to swivel your way. You should have done this 8 months ago.
     
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    "The Willing Stooges":

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    None at all!

     
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    As expected you can't quote anything I said indicating that I didn't believe Russia was selling uranium to Europe. That is because I didn't say it or imply it. You got caught out making stuff up again so you made up something else up - my opinion.

    I'll give you this, you are incredibly consistent when it comes to misrepresenting facts. Now you have moved on to misrepresenting other people's posts.
     

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