Time to Get Real About Ukraine

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  1. bigfella

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    No, just with reality. Not your topic.
     
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    Never mind the bear. This soldier is barefoot in the snow! Grrrrrrr! You'd better get out of your pajamas Zelinsy! :icon_fork:
     
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    So why is the EU still buying uranium from Russia? You used two replies to correct me but haven’t provided a reason why the EU is still buying uranium from Russia? Why is the US buying uranium from Russia or will you tell me you don’t believe that either?
     
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    The more uranium we can remove from Russia the better.

    Why would Russia be supplying it's enemies with Uranium is what people should be asking. Seems like they are desperate for money.
     
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    Noted
     
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    Who cares about gold reserves?
     
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    So few people are able to step back a nanometer from partisan myopy and assess objectively the chessboard .. factor in the bigger picture .. assign proper value to the pieces .. assess the mating threats = the really dumb moves .. and over all geopolitical factors.

    The war itself is agreed by most serious analysts to be unwinnable for Ukraine in terms of getting Crimea back and other land along Black Sea.
    Russia on the other hand seems content what it has secured thus far .. and so is a stalemate. Just a matter of how much more money and dead bodies it is going to take to get the US to negotiate. Everyone else is ready for the most part. .. The EU in particular wants the pain to end .. these folks taking the bulk of the pain from the sanctions .. getting asses kicked would be putting it mildly . I think many of the people of Ukraine .. sending their teenage sons to die in the meat grinder .. some kind of human sacrifice to the Gods on high -- would gladly give up Crimea to Russia .. to have the war end .. the life of their child spared the gruesome horror.

    in the meantime .. and in between time .. I have increased my military metals weighting in stock portfolio .. betting on Tungsten outside of China Russia .. which together control over 90% of the entire world supply .. in a ridiculously inelastic market.. One company .. Almonty is opening up the old mine in Korea .. after near 10 years of trying to get financing .. they will have some 6% of global supply when mine comes into producton this year .. but its like 60% of production outside of Russia China.

    If you go back to WW1-2 .. Tungsten is the problem metal .. its needed for bullets artillery sheilding for Tanks and other vehicles.. but this product is really difficult to increase supply .. difficult to mine and process .. and not a big market to begin with.
     
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    Nothing like begging to be hit first with a nuke to fulfil that trope ..

    Cheerleading the massacre Jack .. urging them green teenage Ukrainian lads into the meat grinder .. ra ra cis boom bah .. liberty or the meat grinder from the couch coach.. :) har har
     
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    A picture is worth 1,000 words. The green conscripts are on the Russian side. Here are some Ukrainians.
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are green conscripts on both sides Jack .. why do you delude yourself with the fantasy that there are no green conscripts on the Ukrainian side.
     
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    The Ukrainian army has become progressively more veteran as the war has continued. The Russian army has become progressively greener as the war has continued. The Ukrainians are volunteers; the Russians are conscripts. The Ukrainians want to fight; the Russians don't. Russian ranks are filled out with convicts who seek the earliest opportunity to desert; wounded Ukrainians seek the earliest opportunity to return to the front.
     
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    Tell me of this conflict you have with reality Big Fella :)
     
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    Now Now Jack .. again you are making things up on the spot as you go .. desperately hoping it sounds good .. prove your claim that the Ukrainian army has become progressively more veteran .. while I laugh in your general direction :) Har har
     
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    Why would I trust the guy who just initiated a campaign to exclude me from society over an experimental vaccine?

    My common sense says trust Putin over Biden.
     
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    A year ago I volunteered as a soldier in the Ukrainian army
    https://www.nato.int › review › articles › 2023/02/16


    5 days ago — Hadn't even done compulsory military service. ... Over the past year, the Ukrainian army has grown to be at least three times larger.

    Ukrainian Military Performance and Outlook - CRS Reports
    https://crsreports.congress.gov › product › pdf

    PDF
    Nov 3, 2022 — 2022, the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF) have successfully ... were veterans, most new recruits and volunteers have little military experience ...

    The Ukrainian Military Has Defied Expectations. Here Is How ...
    https://www.rand.org › blog › 2022/03 › the-ukrainian-...


    Mar 29, 2022 — Over the past weeks, the Ukrainian military has waged a surprisingly tough resistance against a much larger and more-capable Russian army.

    Ukraine's Success Was a Surprise Only to the Russians
    https://www.defense.gov › News › Article › Article › u...


    Sep 13, 2022 — The Ukrainian military has been able to adapt older, Soviet-era military equipment with these new tactics and outfight the Russians. Ukrainian ...
     
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    Some new 'volunteers', no compulsory service you say general lay-z-boy

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZogXCSjbcbU
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yq9FI2twTho
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6LpEJ3Vx4-o
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mCNoz4Gg3FI
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5w5NS6X7SAo

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QuieJu3d2Oc

     
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    Another propaganda fake.
     
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    Why did you post a bunch of random links .. without posting anything from any of those links that supports your claim ? .Would you accept such nonsense as evidence for claim ? I don't think so Jack .. so why you trying to ply this silliness onto others ? That may suffice for the backslap pudd pull but not in serious circles .. can ya hear the echo chamber .. :)
     
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    The evidence is there, in great volume. It's not my job to edit the material and spoon-feed you. You asked for evidence that Ukraine's army has become more veteran while Russia's has become greener (and more prone to felonies). I have provided the evidence. Game over.
     
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    I believe that's true.
    I'm taking Putin's word for that until further notice.
    I haven't heard any whispers of it yet but I'm hoping. Sweden is back in the running (thanks to Turkey's new willingness to discuss NATO membership) something that pisses me off to no end.
    One hopes so, yes.
    That's what I'm thinking but I am not getting a positive response from my own countrymen over that matter. I try to tell them that NATO membership will result in sending our boys to die in one of America's illegal wars. Their response so far has been, "no". What the hell do they think war is anyway?
     

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