To all the border bellyachers out there, tell me what YOU would do, if YOU were President

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  1. Bullseye

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    because they don't get involved in insurrections.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There was already a wall under Bill Clinton. Was it as extensive as it is now? No. But many sections were kept in better repair, and holes created in the wall were not just left wide open.
    And like I said, more of it was not about just the physical wall but enforcement. Both enforcement at the border, and within the country.

    It's also much easier now for migrants to blend in now and hide, because in many cities there are huge segments of the population who are speaking non-English, and then all the sanctuary state policies, where states make it a policy not to notify the federal Immigration enforcement authorities when they come across an undocumented migrant.
     
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    Interesting! I guess you can pick and choose.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask you a question... Do you support deporting people that come here illegally back to their home countries and setting a limit on accepted asylum requests to a max of 15k/year?
     
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    I would deploy the Army and Marine Corps.
     
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  6. Bullseye

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    I mean I could tell ya what I would do but you wouldn't like it.

    It would hurt your feelings.
     
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  8. HT!

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    That's illegal under the U.S. Constitution.
     
  9. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Depends on how they're used.
     
  10. HT!

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    If they're used on U.S. soil it's illegal under the U.S. Constitution. If they're used on Mexico's side it's a military occupation in a sovereign nation.
     
  11. Kal'Stang

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    Again, depends on how they're used. The Constitution does allow for them to be used in an invasion for instance. And for a lot of people, 8 million people entering the country uninvited in 3 short years could be considered as an invasion, even if its not a conventional type of invasion.
     
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  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not necessarily. The state of Texas would probably welcome them.

    And you think somehow border patrol guards are not illegal but sending an army to fill their role would be?
     
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    Post the text that says it's illegal.
     
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    I'd make locally produced drugs legal and heavily fine or imprisonment for any drugs crossing the border. That done, open the border for migrant workers like it used to be so that they can come and go with ease and not need to smuggle in their family because getting back to them every year is just too hard now.
     
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    Absolutely. That has always been the case. For example when the Congress denies funds to a program, like border patrol, it limits the abilities of the executive branch. Likewise, prosecutors are not required to press charges, since they enjoy similar flexibility. It's called prosecutorial discretion.

    We had the "British invasion" in the 1960s, - Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Who, The Animals, you name it.

    Yea.....it was not an invasion, hence there was no need to call in the troops. Florida gets "invaded" by snowbirds every winter. You can call immigration anything you want, even an invasion, but it doesn't make it real.
     
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    I should have said.locally grown as opposed.to produced. Chemical drugs still need a lot of.control for safety if nothing else.
     
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    Clearly, the OP is not interested in having an honest discussion. He's just BELLYACHING about all the criticism being leveled at his Dear Leader about his Open Borders policy.
     
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    Pretty sure there is a huge difference between a few music groups, a bunch of birds... and 8 million people.
     
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    Sure, and there are also similarities, - neither is an invasion
     
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    Fortunately the law/Constitution doesn't take into consideration the feel-feels of the low information rubes.
     
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    The problem is twofold:

    1. Discourage them from coming here so they don't come here, instead of holding out the welcome sign. Eliminate all sanctuary cities and states and benefits.

    2. Don't let them cross over by just about any means necessary, instead of BP holding out their hands to help illegals across, handing them goody bags, and giving them free food, lodging, and medical care. Any who make it across illegally are denied asylum forever. In order to get asylum you have to come here legally.
     
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    It means every person attempting to enter the country around a port of entry would be sent back across the river immediately. In other words I would enforce current immigration laws. But what about those seeking asylum? The asylum policies don't give permission to enter illegally. They should get approval before arriving. They should not enter the country until legal residence is approved and that entry should occur at a port of entry. That is exactly how it should work. The problem is not immigration. It is illegal immigration. Amazing. Exact enough for you?
     
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    Mine the ****ing border and place signs everywhere detailing as such. Once a few go off...they will get the hint.

    "that's illegal?" Who gives a ****.

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    This is unacceptable and destructive.
     
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    Not a very good response, was it?

    I mean even in the literal sense where most of them come from countries with coups every few years.

    You can do better than that.
     
  25. Bullseye

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    Nor. a very good response. Bordering on p*** poor.
     

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