So you're facing problems, sickness, injuries, emotional trauma, loss of a job, marriage failing, your kids doing drugs, car broke down. One thing after another and you don't know where to turn. Well, if you're a Christian you should know where to turn. But do you? For example. We have been taught to pray to God to intervene, to help us overcome, to eradicate sickness, poverty, crime. Whatever. Well, how about doing it God's Way, not what religion has taught us? Instead of telling God about your problem, speak to your problem about God. He gave us the authority and power to do so. Jesus said we will do greater things than He did. How is this possible? We start believing, then we start receiving. We appropriate what He has already given us. He has already given us everything we'll ever need or want. He did so for Adam and Eve, He does it for the sparrows and He's already done it for us. So the next time you deal with a problem. Speak to it and rebuke it in the name of Jesus. Yes, you can move mountains and face down your giants in this world. Do so and prepare for a journey unlike you could ever imagine and I mean that in a positive way. THE WAY.
Inanimate objects like disease and bills are not sentient and cannot be communicated with no matter how hard you "rebuke" them.
That is really good to know, and it is also good to know that we have among us such an expert on matters pertaining to the spirit. Talking to some of those inanimate things is just like talking to some people... they simply won't listen. You would think that those things would at least listen to you and possibly even give consideration to what you are saying... it is almost as if those things are not interested in their own welfare.
Diseases, bills, and other problems don't have ears or minds. They can't listen to you or think about anything.
We shall agree to disagree. Jesus spoke to the fig tree and it died. God spoke the Universe into being. It's not the rebuke that does it when speaking to disease and bills. It's the power of God being released through us toward whatever problems we deal with. I do not expect you to understand. Understanding comes with the belief in Jesus, the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Carnal man cannot comprehend.
You're referring to physical attributes. There is a spiritual component and God's Power is unlimited, man's is. As I've said before, without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, one cannot comprehend. My posts tend to be meant for Christians, though anyone can respond. Killjoys only purpose seems to be to contribute discontent with something they know not of. If one is really seeking the Truth of Christ, that's one thing, if you're not then your time is better spent among secular threads. I will not continue to indulge the naysayers with responses. I hope other Christians or others interested in following Jesus do likewise.
Some of them do.... haven't you even been in a financial position where your bills were 'haunting' you, or where an illness was 'haunting you'?
When I'm haunted by bills I try to live frugally and let the Lord remind me that it's not my treasures on earth that count, but my treasures in heaven. When I'm haunted by illness I go and see a doctor and let the Lord remind me that there's strength in weakness and I'm grateful for the knowledge that my body made of flesh is not as important as my soul. IMHO God doesn't promise to make us rich or healthy, nor will magical thinking let our problems go away. But our faith can help us to get a perspective on what really counts in and after life and and thus can give us the strength to cope with our problems without despairing.
Yes I know that is the appropriate thing for a Christian to do, but the person I was speaking to is a non-theist with a record of directing offensive behavior toward Christians. So what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Remember the words of my PM [;ease.
Well I never claimed to not beleive in a God. I just don't beleive in religion. All religion does is allow a small eliteist group to dictate what others are allowed to believe. It has led to more war than any other issue in the history of manknd, and has absolutely no real use. I feel it's best for people who have their own personal beleieves and to leave everyone else alone. I would like to point out that I do not believe in the same god as you. I merely believe in a higher power. Not God as he is viewed in a Christian sense. So if that's what you think, no I don't To tell the truth, the way I view god, is more of a spirit of the planet. As if Earth itself is a living being and has a spiritual power. When a living thing dies, it's part of the natual cycle, or "plan" and that life continues on in a new form.
Oh! Then you are not an atheist or other non-theist? You just don't believe in... "re·li·gion (r-ljn) n. 1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship. 2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order. 3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. 4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion." Well, that does sort of sound a little bit contradictory, considering that God is known as the creator of the universe, and religion places God within its definition. See definition of religion above. So you place a differing set of parameters, description, and location on God, but at the same time, admit that God is a higher power. It would boil down to the same thing... Define "higher power".
I guess I shoould say that I dont believe in ORGANIZED religion. I feel it's wrong to build a strict belief structure around an ideal. But I would define higher power as a force that controlls life and death. If being a higher power is being god, than my idea thay nature itself is a god is very accurate. in that nature ultimately controls all. We all ultimately die. And we go back to nature as nourishment for new life when we are buried. And all of out greatest works eventually will be taken back by nature, once the human race has run it's course, and then nature will select a new creature to lead the race of evolution and dominate this planet.
I also do not believe in organized religion (as it exists today) because those religions have abandoned their original estate and have gone a whoring with the State. Building a strict belief around an ideal is only difficult when one encounters people who do not believe in the 'ideal'. Clear enough response and definition. One question. Would that include God?: God is also attributed with such ability. What controls nature? I believe it is science that also says that everything must have a cause. Yes! Even the Bible states that "it is accounted unto man to once die." The buried bodies do decompose and (though I have never exhumed a corpse) it is said that the decomposed material does go back to the ground. I will simply say that I disagree with you on that last part as you have included the term 'evolution' and I am not a believer in 'evolution' as in the manner that has been discussed on this forum.
As for whether I would include god, yes......and I would include other gods as well.... I feel that all religions are simply different interpetations of the spirit of nature. People add their own views and beliefs afterwards, but it's all the same thing. If you are asking if I believe in angels and demons......no.....I feel that most of the biblical stories about angels are actually about either aliens or some advanced earth based civilizations that was not known at the time, Atlantis, for example, is said to have had advanced technologoes that would have seemed to be magical or divine powers to the primitives of the middle east at that time. The best example of this happening in closer times would be the Aztecs. When the spanish first came to the americas, they were wrongly seen as the returning gods of aztec and mayan religion.
Well stated. I can and do accept all of what you have stated below. You have not made any positive assertions and therefore, I am to believe that those comments are your opinion, and in this case, your open opinion is appreciated without dispute. Thank you.
You can dispute it all you want. That is what debate is suposed to be about......Sadly, many people forget that.
What are you now suggesting that I am attempting to dispute? Be specific. BTW: my complimentary statement with regard to your last post does not mean that I agree with any of those points... I was merely pointing out that the comments were well stated and that the comments did not contain any declarations of alleged fact.
Well no discussion based in religion has facts. Religion can't have facts because it's based solely on the belief of the person who follows it. I did express my personal religions beliefs in my post, for example, I did say that I feel all religion is based on the worship of the spirit of nature. and I mean you can dispute those beliefs all you want. I like friendly debates.
Herod did not exist? Caesar did not exist? Historical records blows your argument out of the water. We are remaining on the same page then... with regard to that last paragraph of yours.
