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'Toughest gun laws in Australia' to be introduced in WA after shooting at Perth school

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Melb_muser, May 25, 2023.

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Wild Bill Kelsoe, May 25, 2023
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    A murder rate 1/8th that of the US, sounds pretty good to me. (wild bill's link: Homicide is on the rise in Australia. Should we be concerned? (theconversation.com) )
     
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    LiveUninhibited, May 25, 2023
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    The murder rate may well have more to do with the racial demographics of an area than any laws.
    We've had discussions about this before.

    The U.S. is the least white, with the most diversity, among all the White English-speaking countries.
     
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    kazenatsu, May 25, 2023
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  5. FatBack

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    That's a subject they don't want to touch with a 10-ft pole but the racial demographics of criminal activity lends all the validity in the world to it
     
    FatBack, May 25, 2023
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    The big question will be - where did he get those guns and I am betting that the home will be looked at as they should have been under lock and key. Some of the reporting said the family notified the police so maybe….
     
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    So because this one family was careless the rest of Western Australia has to have the strictest gun laws imposed?
     
    Rucker61, May 25, 2023
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    Turtledude, May 25, 2023
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    If the media even reports it. Probably won't give it much coverage. You'd be surprised how much crime there can be without ordinary people knowing about it.
    Maybe if it actually happens to them or someone they know, they might suspect that it could be part of a wider problem.

    Media only seems to give lots of coverage to a story if it will help push a certain political agenda.
     
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  10. Melb_muser

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    After the smashing success of the gun legislation in America (how many kids are killed each year by guns?) we are trying a different approach.
     
    Melb_muser, May 25, 2023
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, we don't want that either..
     
    Melb_muser, May 25, 2023
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    Utopia!
     
    Melb_muser, May 25, 2023
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    I thought you said you're in West Virginia?

    So are you telling me that you would rather die as a victim of violent crime being unable to defend yourself for the greater good?
     
    FatBack, May 25, 2023
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    mainly felons killing felons and suicides. frankly, not a concern to most of us. I support the right of people to end their own lives. You know, their body, their choice like the abortion fan club says
     
    Turtledude, May 25, 2023
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  15. Melb_muser

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    Given the American predeliction for controlling others, maybe it would happen in the US. Don't forget all those government officials in the US are simply US citizens, just like the rest of you.

    I'm confident this won't happen in Australia LOL
     
    Melb_muser, May 25, 2023
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    I'm in West Virginia. Can I not speak for Australians while I'm overseas?

    It's a moot point. Australians have weighed the benefits versus the cost of the levels gun ownership and we have appropriate rules that we think are the right balance.

    You can still buy a semi and a handgun if you have just cause.
    example.
     
    Melb_muser, May 25, 2023
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    Are you kidding me? It already HAS..... You have to have some sort of firearm certificate for a moderately powered pellet gun
     
    FatBack, May 25, 2023
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    I think that's an honest reason. I respect that.
     
    Melb_muser, May 25, 2023
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    And of course the Australian government doesn't consider self defense a just cause.

    Except for when it comes to protecting their sorry asses in Parliament with guns.

    So what's the example of just cause?
     
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  20. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, yeah you have to have a firearm certificate to own a firearm in Aus. Hilarious that this surprises you.
     
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    To own a semi-automatic rifle or a handgun?

    Competition shooting, working on a farm, etc.
     
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    Well we don't know what they're going to do yet.
     
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    I think you should read my post again
     
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    Exactly.... Your government tells you that you have no right to defend yourself with a firearm but they themselves have no problem being protected with arms.

    That really should piss you off a little bit
     
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    I support the idea that citizens should have ready access to the same level of weaponry that their own government might use against them
     
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