Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries as prez

And it is a fact Joe Biden did not need to receive money to be involved..

Please show any evidence of Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries.

 

Wapo has a paywall. Most stories are carried for free on nbc, the hill, politico, etc.

 

Thankfully money laundering and tax evasion does.
Wonder if Hunter will be charged with tax fraud, oh wait...................

 

Mazar's, Agent Orange's accountants were ordered by a court to provide this to Congress and they provided info on some properties for 1+ years until the Trump Party Comer flunkie told them directly to stop cooperating with the court order because he was going to kill the House investigation, duhhhhh...

 

Here is 156 pages of Trump corruption.

https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

Joe has no business relationships with any of Hunter's associates.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/heres-why-there-is-no-bribed-biden.615466/


Yeah, he had contact with them, you would too if your son was a recovering drug addict (which occurred after his brother died, hunter went into a deep depression and made bad choices) and you wanted to check out who your son was doing business with, making sure the contacts weren't crooks and the deals he made were on the up and up.

This is problem of miscommunication, and Joe is not perfect in his articulation.

Nor is Trump, but you don't mind when Trump doesn't articulate perfectly.

Whether or not there was a product or service is irrelevant. With Hunter, there is a service, it's probably consultant, investment, and non obvious type of service, but this fact is irrelevant. Hunter is a private citizen and Trump was president and the founders, via the emoluments clause, prohibited that behavior. He could have been selling chicken feed, it doesn't matter.

Trump was paid directly via his hotel empire. He gave political favors to the countries he had business with and he openly bragged about it. This is the very thing you guys are accusing Joe of, without evidence, yet the evidence against Trump is staring you in the face and you ignore it. Trump made over $5 million from china alone, they advanced hard to get trademarks, dozens of them, for him and ivanka immediately after he became president. Countries he should have sanctioned didn't get sanctioned because he did business with those countries. The 'muslim ban', was to prevent 'terrorists from entering the country', and it listed every muslim country except the one he had a hotel in, Saudi Arabia, which was the home of all the 9/11 attackers, but no ban for Saudis, eh?

And this doesn't bother you? There is NO evidence on Joe that remotely comes close to the evidence on Trump, and you guys ignore it.

Why is this? Explain this to me.


Not to mention:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/trump’s-russian-laundromat.615614/

and

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-president-much-of-it-from-taxpayers.615410/

and

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

and

https://prospect.org/mapping-corruption-interactive


But on Joe? You got noting


And don't give me any crap that 'doesn't have to have direct evidence, his family benefited'.. No, it does have to, per bar on corruption being raised to hard conclusive evidence per McDonnell v. United States, Moreover, if his family, and not Joe, benefited, that just means private citizens earned money abroad, and, so? so did Trump's family, too, earn money abroad. Oh, so you say 'what was the money for'? No, your lack of knowledge isn't proof of wrongdoing, either. Does anyone know what Manafort did for his foreign clients? Consulting, well, Hunter probably did something similar, and foreign leaders pay a lot of money for consulting services for consultants with close political ties, it's called lobbying, it's legal. Hunter is a registered lobbyist. The worst you got is a FARA violation note that Weiss did not charge him for it.

Not one LLC lists Joe Biden as an officer in a Shell.

Not one LLC has been proven to be established for a corrupt purpose as none of the 10 or so legitimate reasons have been excluded.

Not one taped phone call implicates joe in any wrong doing.

Not one testimony against Joe is backed by hard evidence.

No testimony given by Joe's staff against him.

No testimony by Joe's sons and daughters are made against him

Noting that every email and text presented do not have Joe Biden as a participant in the conversation and third party mentions of Joe is hearsay and some have been established as fake.

Noting that the chain of custody of the laptop is not clear cut, and has the potential for corruption.

All of the times Biden 'phoned in', testimony proves he just engaged in pleasantries. Joe calls his son often.

All of the times he was invited to Hunter's biz party, he never talked about anything other than idle chit chat. Devon Archer told us so, under oath.

All Hunter is guilty of is using his dad as prop to impress biz partners, which is NOT illegal. Why did Joe go along with it, KNOWING that it would raise serious questions and damage his reputation. Why? BECAUSE HE LOVES HIS SON. He was helping his son who was recovering from a drug addiction, helping him get his feet off the ground. Joe is to be ADMIRED, not treated with contempt.

Hunter's qualifications? Hunter has an extensive resume:

Vice Chairman of National Railroad Passenger Corporation s
Headed the Lobbyist firm of Oldaker, Biden & Belair
Vice Chairman on the Board Of Directors of Amtrak
Developed Ecommerce policy for Clinton administration
Served on China-based private equity firm, BHR Partners, Inc.

Got his bachelor's at Georgetown and JD at Yale. That's four year post graduate degree, and Yale is not for dummies.

Now, yes, he's a kind of black sheep in the family, but he's no slacker like the right wants to portray him as.

In fact, all of the evidence thus far produced, it only proves that Hunter Biden did business abroad, that that business is not against the law, plus the fact that he generously shared his profits with other family members, but notably except his father. There might be a FARA violation but that is not proof of wrongdoing beyond that fact. Weiss is not charging Hunter with FARA.

SARs are not proof of wrongdoing, says so right on the Gov website.

FBI FD-1023 reports are not evidence, they need to be corroborated, and none have been, to date.

IRS agents are not, by definition, true whistleblowers, their testimony is merely a disagreement with the prosecutors prosecutorial decisions, in which such disagreements are common, and not only that, their testimony was impeached by Weiss, Garland and Rep Dan Goldman.

That Yelena Baturina was not sanctioned is not a damning fact at all, as alleged, given that some 50 Russian/Ukrainian billionaires haven't been sanctioned, either, and she is merely one of many.

What I've been finding is that for every issue put forth by Republicans, regarding the Bidens, there is an innocent explanation. Oh, some things might look bad, but looking bad is not illegal.

what did Hunter do for the dough? My guess is consulting services, which is a lucrative business, just ask Manafort. But that we don't know doesn't prove a crime.

Oh, checks to Joe? Yes, repayments for loans. Loan docs? I have loaned relatives money, never did 'loan docs'. who does that to a relative? And Comer loaned his brother $200k, shall we prosecute Comer?

All of the 'evidence' thus far is suggestive in nature, and not conclusive.

I voted for Biden and if you can show me conclusive proof, I'll stand in the line of persons demanding his resignation.

But, thus far, NOTHING implicates Joe. All the evidence proves are two things

1. Hunter did business abroad, which is not illegal. He sold sizzle, but no steak.

2. Joe loves his son.

That's' it. On Joe the right hasn't proven anything.

Nothing.

Squat

Zip

Zero.

did David Weiss, after 6 years, indict Hunter on corruption or 'influence peddling'?

No. 6 years, and NOT ONE criminal referral on Joe.

And that is why I believe in Joe's innocence.

The evidence on Joe is no where near sufficient to warrant an indictment, it comes no where near the high bar set by McDonnell v United States, review that ruling.

But the evidence on Trump is overwhelming, which is why there are some 91 felony counts, four indictments, against him.

You need to swallow the bitter pill called........

Reality, facts, and the truth.

 

emoluments clause.

The only way not to violate it if you own businesses to countries you will affect foreign policy over as president is to divest.


You are ignoring the facts in this post.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...untries-as-prez.615787/page-5#post-1074596604

 

None of that is relevant to my post.

 

Your post was irrelevant to start with because it does not show any evidence of Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries.

 

You're probably right. But the relevancy is that this, your post and other negativity isn't going to change anyone's vote.

 

Well which is it they are not the same.

Do we know for what those payments were made?

 

If true spread the word. Perhaps will lose Trump some votes in the primaries.

 

For renting hotel rooms and playing golf and gambling at his long established resorts................yes it's OK.

Did you miss the appellate court ruling where the judge said

"Judge Paul Niemeyer wrote in the opinion: "The District and Maryland's interest in enforcing the Emoluments Clauses is so attenuated and abstract that their prosecution of this case readily provokes the question of whether this action against the President is an appropriate use of the courts, which were created to resolve real cases and controversies between the parties.""
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/10/740258653/appeals-court-dismisses-emoluments-lawsuit-against-trump

 

https://oversightdemocrats.house.go...files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

 

Repubs don't care about character.

 

That is not the point. The only way to satisfy the Emoluments clause is to divest.

 

Trump donated the profits from foreign governments to the Treasury.

 

@Patricio Da Silva
So where is the Trump corruption you promised?
The Democrats have yet to show any evidence of Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries or any Trump corruption like you said.

 

I wouldn't trust Trump org with any claim they make. They have been busted fro fraud and illegal activity too many times.

Moreover, the Constitution prohibits federal officeholders from accepting money, payments or gifts “of any kind whatever” from foreign governments and monarchs unless they obtain “the consent of the Congress” to do so. He did not do so.

Moreover, he doled out favors, or did not sanction when he was supposed to ion countries he did business with.

Not of the funds mentioned in the suit had to do with sales of condos, which amounted ot in the many millions.

Trump and Ivanka both got accelerated hard to get trademarks as soon as he became president.

There's a lot more to this story, which is given in this report

https://oversightdemocrats.house.go...files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

 

You and the others on here have yet to show evidence of Trump corruption or Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries. Please provide links.

 

Post of the month award...
Yes you are correct.... Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries ...... and donated the profits from foreign governments to the Treasury....

https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1742967062610301161

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1693938700906881103

ooooopsy.... I guess Raskin forgot to mention that...

 

Not a single one?

 

Prove it.

 

most of them

 

https://archive.is/ipOsi ...or for people foolish enough to pay the subscription.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trump-press-conference-transcript.html?_r=0
Donald Trump’s News Conference
JAN. 11, 2017
Sheri A. Dillon

 

Donairing profit means nothing. If Trump is in debt 1 million and a foreign gives him a million and $1, would donating that $1 mean that Trump didn't receive anything of value?