Trump will be arrested Tuesday....

Paying hush money is not illegal...... they will have to connect it to the campaign for it to have teeth.... and this Manhatten DA state prosecutor has no business into a federal election. The Stormy misdemeanor thing is 2 years over statute of limitations...

But again.... this all has only started by a statement by Trump... it has not even happened yet... and may never happen...

 

Yes, unlike Trump and his supporters, I love democracy. Which is the reason I hate Trump. In order for him to say that this payment wasn't a felony, he has to argue that he would have paid the money even if he hadn't been running. That's literally the only way for that payment not to be a felony. Otherwise, it's a felony to make that payment without reporting it. Passing it off as a business expense is also a crime, but only misdemeanor.

 

Not to worry, after he's convicted of whatever, we will elect him and he can pardon himself and then get on with cleaning up the mess Biden has made of our
Democracy.

 

IF he can pardon himself (not likely to hold up in court), he can still only pardon himself of federal crimes. He can't pardon himself or anyone else of state crimes.

 

What is this crybaby nonsense? Democrats can't arrest Republicans who commit crimes? Republicans can't arrest Democrats? Total nonsense.

 

But it is if you pass it off as an election expense.

 

He knows it's nonsense.

 

LOL, this is not an episode of Leave it to Beaver where Beaver is being bullied on the school playground

 

You are literally wrong. Literally!

It's a crime if the money comes from campaign funds. That's not the case here. And that's why the FEC is not bringing this case. Because it's not a case unless you are a blue state DA.

And seriously? You think there is NO OTHER REASON for a wealthy man to want to pay hush money to keep a side piece quiet than running for office?

Like this case itself, that's absurd.

 

Then the FEC will get right on that if it did in fact happen.

 

Grand Jury deliberations and the evidence presented to them are held in secret for a reason. We really don't know how much evidence there is against Trump. DA Bragg, could not remember his name because I don't live in the state of NY, is reacting to the evidence presented that there may be enough to indict, the lower standard of probable cause, but is there enough, from the estimation of the DA, to convict, the higher standard of beyond a reasonable doubt.

But the political reality is that even a lot of members of the GOP see some criminality in the hush money case if you don't mention Trump. And that says something. And that too is the rub within the legal system that the DA has to consider if he will actually go forward with the grand jury to indict and formerly charge Trump or anyone else. In the meantime, Trump is trying to use his schoolyard bullying tactics on the political arena for this, energizing his base, as evident by the post here in this forum, to protest, violently if necessary, in order for Trump to get his way.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e-trump-hush-money-case-if-you-ask-right-way/

 

No, it does not have to come from "campaign funds." It just has to be used to help the campaign.

Trump has cheated on all of his wives. He's well-known for it. Did he pay off the mistresses he had before he ran for office? If so, he's got a solid defense there. If not, then you have the answer to your question.

If he paid off his previous mistresses, you have a point. If he didn't, you don't.

 

The FEC does not bring a case on political presidential candidates. At best, they work behind the scenes and to get them to return the money, quietly away from the press, if they found out. It is also why they don't bring any cases against Biden on the conservative mantra that Biden hid assets and income argument, none of which is true, or the fact that the Hilary Campaign was fined, not charged for their violations even though they returned the money.

But in this case, if one hides the true intention and misconstrues the financial arrangements within the campaign to pay the money, in which he used Michael Cohen and others to do, then that may be a crime if it occurred within state law. And wealthy people do not pay directly out of their account or their debit/credit cards for escort services or to pay hush money to women they slept with in order to keep it a secret from their spouses. Technically, paying money for sex is called prostitution for the crime. A woman does not have to be an escort or a prostitute, a professional who is in the business of having or performing sexual acts for money, for someone to be charged. And trump also said the sex was consensual, which does not mean a hill of beans if laws were broken.

 

I don't understand why previous mistresses matter. Anyway since you know far more about campaign finance laws then those dummies at the FEC, we'll see how this goes.

 

Is that what happened to John Edwards? He was quietly asked to return the money, and he told them FU, so they had to take him to court?

Interesting.

 

It really does not matter if he paid off his former mistresses. We know one well-known mistress who eventually became Wife #2. Her name is Marla Maples and they had a daughter together named tiffany, and technically born out of wedlock because Trump did not want to be seen with woman he is getting married to who was 7 months pregnant. Yes, he had more love affairs than Bill Clinton, more wives than Bill Clinton, and more divorces than Bill Clinton. The irony is Melania, his current wife, is using the same argument that Hilary used back in the early 2000s when it was fully known just how many women Bill Clinton slept with in all of his political careers. Bill Clinton and Trump share more in common with mistresses than I think Trump supporters realize.

 

Then think it over. You claimed that had reasons besides the campaign to pay her off. He has a decades-long history of mistresses. If he only started paying them off after he started running, then only a lobotomized rock would believe he would have paid her off if he hadn't run. This ain't rocket surgery.

 

It does if he wants to claim that he would have paid her off even if he weren't running.

 

The Orange Oaf should be charged with sexual assault for at least some of the two dozen women who claim Trump assaulted them.

 

That's ok, he won't be convicted of anything anyway.

 

Really, he doesn't have to claim any such thing. THEY have to PROVE otherwise, and that will be a really hard row for them to hoe.

 

If Trump wasn't running, it is still illegal, although not prosecutable, because it is a sophisticated form of prostitution. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

He has been exposed as a criminal. I do believe that the DOJ has been slow to pull the trigger. Clearly your claim that the Trump investigation was due to political reasons is exactly the opposite. The DOJ has been dragging their feet in prosecuting him for political reasons. Not necessarily nefarious reasons, like you conspiracy theory would suggest. But so as not to create a political upheaval. And that is not how our criminal system should work.

 

He may escape felony charges in this case, but not misdemeanor charges. He's also probably screwed in the Georgia case and he's absolutely ****ed in his theft of government documents case.

 

How do you know this was the only one paid off?