Trump's New Estimate: 100,000 Death.... A Success Story

Somebody is claiming that there have already been 100,000 deaths inside the U.S.? Let me guess . . . CNN or MSNBC?

 

We just passed the 70,000 mark.

Three weeks ago you thought it would only be 60,000... for the whole year.

Trump warned the Americans there might be 100,000.

In the end, it doesn't matter to you. You're going to support him no matter what.

 

John Oliver to Jared Kushner: 'If it's a success story for anyone, it’s for the coronavirus'

John Oliver returned to Last Week Tonight from a brief hiatus Sunday night for another examination of America’s botched response to coronavirus, which has now claimed over 65,000 lives in the US in three months, more than the Vietnam war – a “grim” milestone, said Oliver, which is why it was so “jarring to see Jared Kushner and his resting ‘Do you know who my father is?’ face basically declare victory over the virus.”

Last Wednesday, Kushner told Fox & Friends that the federal government’s response to the virus was a “great success story” that would have the country “really rocking again” by July.

“Oh, it will be ‘really rocking again,’ will, it Jared?” Oliver scoffed. “It’s incredible to see someone with the skin of a newborn baby birthed in a tub of Neutrogena talk like a middle-age dad desperately trying to connect with his teenage son. But before we can celebrate Jared’s ‘great success story,’ and get back to our ‘rockin’ selves,’ we badly need to work out how we can reopen parts of society.”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/may/04/john-oliver-jared-kushner-coronavirus

 

I did not say that it would be 60,000 for the entire year. Inventing things does you no credit.

 

This claim is objectively false. Please stop using gatewaypundit.

 

Actually, you did blast a thread about the new 60,000 projection that, while not based on the entire year, was definitely based on the current wave.

 

Because of leftist revisionists I will repost what I wrote here.

This was the title taken from the article as per forum rules. Do you comprehend that the title was not MY words? Here's the title of the article: STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 Deaths ...Like a Typical Flu!

You comprehend that? Now here is my comment on that title:

"No surprise there. Was this flu overhyped or have responses been just that effective? It will be interesting to see what statistical analysis concludes in the future. Is the ratio of death to infection so low because it was overhyped or were the dire nature very real and the death ratio so low only because the entire nation and most of western civilization self-isolated?"

So . . . nope. I did not write what you just claimed that I wrote. So let's precede to the article itself. Or at least the section that I presented:
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There is not a single country in the world today with over 18,000 total coronavirus deaths.

On Sunday night the IMHE cut their numbers in half.

Today the IMHE model used by the CDC and Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci estimate the total US coronavirus deaths to be 81,766 by August 4th.
And 81,000 by May 21st."

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Ta-da! I bet you feel a trifle foolish now. Well you and your fellow revisionist poster.

 

Because of leftist revisionists I will repost what I wrote here.

This was the title taken from the article as per forum rules. Do you comprehend that the title was not MY words? Here's the title of the article: STUNNING! IHME Reduces Their Model Predictions AGAIN! -- Now Say Peak Is ON EASTER and Only 60,000 Deaths ...Like a Typical Flu!

Now here is my comment on that title:

"No surprise there. Was this flu overhyped or have responses been just that effective? It will be interesting to see what statistical analysis concludes in the future. Is the ratio of death to infection so low because it was overhyped or were the dire nature very real and the death ratio so low only because the entire nation and most of western civilization self-isolated?"

So . . . nope. I did not write what you just claimed that I wrote. So let's precede to the article itself. Or at least the section that I presented:
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There is not a single country in the world today with over 18,000 total coronavirus deaths.

On Sunday night the IMHE cut their numbers in half.

Today the IMHE model used by the CDC and Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci estimate the total US coronavirus deaths to be 81,766 by August 4th.
And 81,000 by May 21st."

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Revisionist tendencies are dicey when a poster can simply find and then repost the original, as I have just done.

 

Like almost all the trumpsters in the forum, you are one of those who try to minimize the danger of COVID-19.

2,350 dead today. 72,000 in total. By May 20, there will be 100,000.

In a few days, the US will have the worst record in the world per capita in terms of number of cases and deaths.

So I'm going to repeat my question one more time:

How many American casualties does it take to admit the President's crisis management was a disaster?

 

Actually it won't be the worse by far. If you go by the ratio of numbers infected whom then die or the ratio of numbers of people in the nation whom then get infected. The United States is still not up there with Italy, Spain, the UK, Ireland, or France. So why are leftists determined to keep everyone in a frothing panic and both states and the national economy shut down? Oh snap . . . the 2020 presidential election.

 

Number of cases per capita:

US: 1/267
Spain: 1/189
Italy: 1/284
UK: 1/352
France: 1/395
Belgium: 1/228
Germany: 1/499
Ireland: 1/300

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Considering that the virus hit Europe two weeks before America and that Spain, Italy and France have flattened their curve in the last 10 days, the US will have the worst record of cases and deaths within 15 days.

 

I am not invested enough in this argument to give you useful sets of statistics. But I do wonder why you WANT the United States to be leading the way in deaths in ratio to its population.

 

Why does it matter what I want?

I'm stating facts.

Why is the US heading towards the worst record in the West?

How many deaths does it take to make elected officials, the President first, accountable?

Do you consider, like Trump, that the management of this pandemic is a great success?

 

Why is this clown prince Jared, doing making policies in our government anyway?!!


No story here. I just thought I could publish my cartoon. Pretty much self explanatory……..thanks for paying attention.

 

100,000 from a highly contagious virus is not that many. I'll get concerned if the death toll reaches 500,000 a year or more.

Besides, half of those who die are elderly.

 

Your question needs to be edited to what areas have had the largest death rate and who are the governors in those areas who failed their states. Didn't you lefties stomp and kick insisting that each state is up to the governor? Ooops, Cuomo has some explaining to do.

 

Jesus ****ing christ. You won't get concerned until half a million die in a year!?

What the actual ****?

And half of those who die are elderly? Some of the people that I love most in this world are elderly or have pre-existing conditions.

 

Cuomo has spent every day explaining and leading for 2-3 hours per day. And he does it without attacking journalists, other governmental leaders, praising himself, and lying about the things that medical experts just said.

 

You must really be blaming the governors of New York and New Jersey. If it wasn't for them, our numbers would be much better.

 

Explaining for several hours per day isn't doing a damn thing but breathing a bunch of hot air. He is the governor of New York, is he not? How many lives has explaining stuff saved?

 

The US now leads the EU in terms of deaths per million.

 

And it's those people who need to stay isolated as much as possible. I went to the store yesterday and there were elderly people everywhere. There are special hours for them to shop but they seem to be ignoring it.

 

Oh it is definitely doing more than a damn thing.

 

So the total deaths as of right now are 72,334, of which 35% (25,204) comes from New York. So now do you blame Trump or praise Cuomo. Hmmmm, I can see your predicament .

 

The Red States have done a MUCH better job preparing and responding to the Virus Challenge than the Blue States, about 3 times better.

Now according to the Fake News NYT, you'd think folks were dying in Dixie because them dumb bible-thumpers don't believe in science.

“When controlling for the differences in population across states, the number of deaths from coronavirus is over three times higher in states with Democratic governors than in states with Republican governors.”
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Has the deadliest record IN THE WORLD!​

Republican governors have experienced 57.53 coronavirus deaths per million of population, states with Democratic governors have 179.74 deaths per million of population. Even excluding the state of New York as an extreme outlier, states with Democratic governors have 138.58 deaths per million from coronavirus, still over twice as many coronavirus deaths per million as deaths in states with Republican governors.

The dramatically lower death rates in Republican states account for the willingness of Republican governors to consider relaxed shelter-in-place policies relative to governors in Democratic states. As is appropriate in a federal system where significant policy responsibility continues to be exercised at the state level, a shelter-in-place policy appropriate for New York would not necessarily work well in Wyoming. Governors should be encouraged, not condemned, for pursuing policies tailored to the unique characteristics of their states.

In the U.S. constitutional system in which state governments uniquely hold police powers—defined to be general authority to protect the health, safety, welfare and morality of the people (a power that the US national government does not have today and has never had)—it is a fair question to ask why so many state governors were caught unprepared. Particularly governors in states that had well known characteristics, like large, cosmopolitan cities, likely to exacerbate the risk of pandemic contagion.

If the Democrats were so smart and caring, then why this huge divergence of death rates between Republican and Democratic states?

https://lawliberty.org/virus-deaths-in-democratic-versus-republican-states/​