Ukrainian units are leaving behind their Western tanks and advancing slowly on foot after coming up

Yeah yeah.

Russia would be a perfect little choir boy if it wasn't for the US.

 

List of military equipment of Islamic State

This is a list of some of the military equipment used by the Islamic State (IS).

... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_equipment_of_Islamic_State​

Their arms are mostly captured from the Syrian Army, so they're actually armed by Syria and Russia.

 

So Assad and Putin equipped them with fleets of new Toyota trucks and thousands of pairs of Nikes??

ISIS first appeared in Iraq and Obama initially refused to help the Iraqis fight them in order to teach Iraqi PM Al Maliki a lesson.

Russia didn't enter the theater until 2015 after a request from Assad.

U.S. Said to Rebuff Iraqi Request to Strike Militants
By Michael R. Gordon and Eric Schmitt

• June 11, 2014

WASHINGTON — As the threat from Sunni militants in western Iraq escalated last month, Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki secretly asked the Obama administration to consider carrying out airstrikes against extremist staging areas, according to Iraqi and American officials.

But Iraq’s appeals for a military response have so far been rebuffed by the White House, which has been reluctant to open a new chapter in a conflict that President Obama has insisted was over when the United States withdrew the last of its forces from Iraq in 2011.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/12/...or-airstrikes-on-militants-officials-say.html

 

My facts are that Russia does not have the ability to take Odesa, which is beyond dispute except for the morons who wrote the article you linked to. My facts are also that the ship cited in the moronic article is NOT Ukraine's 'last warship', as claimed by Russia, and that sinking a small amphibious ship capable of carrying only 4 tanks will have NO impact on the war in Ukraine.

Those are facts. Only the morons who dressed up Kremlin propaganda as a 'story' on that website you use could think otherwise. No one who treats that website as credible has an opinion worth listening to.

 

Mostly they are: Russians; Russians pretending to be Americans*; Right wing Americans; Conspiracy nuts. The number of left wing 'tankies' seems fairly low.

*These guysa are a scream. One claims to be American but keeps using language that NO American uses. Another claiming to be American keeps referring to the US as 'they' and 'them'....like no real American ever would. Too funny.

 

One of them couldn't view a YouTube video of a song I linked to as well, indicating beyond any doubt that he is somewhere outside of the US.

 

I am with you. I still cannot think of anything even remotely related to the Ukraine that is vital to American National Security. Spending billions to protect Ukraine's borders while leaving our own wide open is insane.

 

So you actually think this is some sort of official policy discussion? WOW. Its a bunch of writers and academics discussing stuff on youtube. Given the sort of stuff you treat as factual its hardly surprising that you can't tell the difference, but out here in the real world we understand that it has nothing to do with US policy. I realize that you can't understand that, but you can't claim you weren't told.

 

I’m still lost why anyone would celebrate the loss of crimea to Russia

 

It takes years to train Soldiers these days. Sending all these high tech systems to Ukraine and expecting them to make a difference is like sending a scalpel to a 15 year old and expecting him to perform successful surgery,

 

The US was being imperialist when it fomented/supported an illegal coup in Ukraine in 2014, igniting a civil war that led to Russia's SMO in 2022.

Russia is defending its western border from a hostile military alliance dedicated to regime change in Moscow; the same sort of regime change NATO brought to Yugoslavia, Libya, and Afghanistan.

 

Russia isn't overthrowing democratically elected governments on the opposite side of the planet from Moscow; the US did exactly that in Ukraine in 2014.

Russia is facing an existential threat today that would not be present absent US imperialism.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-n...ys-overthrow-yanukovych-blatant-coup-history/

"In a December 19th interview in the Russian magazine Kommersant, George Friedman, who is the Founder and CEO of Stratfor, the ‘Shadow CIA’ firm, says of the overthrow of Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovych that occurred on February 22nd of 2014: 'It really was the most blatant coup in history.'

"Perhaps he is saying this because of the videos that were uploaded to the Web which showed it to be so, but this statement by him contradicts the description that is asserted by the U.S. White House and the European Union, and the Western press, which description is that Yanukovych’s overthrow was instead just the result of the U.S. Government’s $5+ billion expense since 1991 to establish ‘democracy’ in Ukraine."

 

"Your 'facts' are totally unsupported by any source aside from your personal, war-whore prejudices.

True or False?

https://www.wionews.com/world/russia-says-it-has-destroyed-ukraines-last-remaining-warship-598736

"On May 29, a high-precision strike by the Russian Air Force on a ship anchorage site in the port of Odesa destroyed the last warship of the Ukrainian Navy, the 'Yuri Olefirenko'," the Russian army said in its daily briefing..."

"Kyiv has not reacted to the Russian assertion related to the incapacitation of the Soviet-era naval ship first commissioned in the 1970s."

 

I have no idea if the ship has been hit and neither do you. It is irrelevant to the point here and I did not claim it had not been hit.

What I do know is that it is not the 'last warship' - Ukraine has more warships. If you had the slightest interest in facts you would know that. Instead you just brush those facts away with petty insults.

What I do know is that a small amphibious ship has little to no role in defending Ukraine. If you knew the slightest thing about naval wafare you would know this. Instead you ignore this simple fact in favour of Russian propaganda and petty insults.

What I do know is that Russia cannot move an army across the Dnipro without the bridges it destroyed if Ukraine opposes such a crossing and what I do know is that Ukraine has enough anti-shipping missiles to stop Russia taking Odesa from the sea. Russia has already lost two major surface vessels.

So, all of this means that the article you linked to is a piece of trash. You can't defend it, so you aren't even trying. You just vomit up Russian propaganda and petty insults.

 

I treat the US intention to balkanize Russia as a fact. If you believe otherwise, you can't tell the difference between propaganda and reality.

https://korybko.substack.com/p/russia-would-be-torn-to-pieces-exactly

"Former Russian President and incumbent Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev remixed US President Biden’s words about his country’s special operation in a thought-provoking Telegram post on Wednesday. The relevant excerpt is as follows, which will then be analyzed:

“To paraphrase a well-known expression, Biden said in Warsaw: 'If Russia stops its invasion, it will end right now. If the Ukrainians stop defending themselves, it will be the end of Ukraine’. This is a pure lie. The truth is quite the opposite. If Russia stops its special military operation without achieving victory, it will no longer exist, it will be torn to pieces. If the US halts arms supplies to the Kiev regime, the war will end.”

 

So once again you are just presenting Russian propaganda as fact. At least you are consistent.

The only threat NATO & the EU pose to Russia is as examples how democracies are better than Russia's dismal dictatorship. NATO could not break up Russia if it wanted to and no one can show otherwise. The greatest threat to Russia is the dismal, violent dictatorship it has, but as you support that dismal, violent dictatorship you can't see that.

Just keep feeding more propganda into your head. It will stop you thinking unapproved thoughts.

 

Until NATO or Ukraine step a foot inside Russia, Russians have no claim of victimhood when invading Ukraine. Regardless of their perceived or assumed threat.

Also, to take this position, you have to complete ignore Russia's previous aggression on George and Crimea.

It's odd how the "victim" Russia keeps on invading sovereign nations.

 

It's funny to me that you keep on selectively appying facts to support your narrative.

Russia as recently as last year was "holding elections", at gunpoint, with citizens of the Donbas region to determine if they wanted to join Russia.

Putin is trying to rebuild Russia and it's territory to the size of the USSR. There is no doubt about that, nor where the imperialism and aggression exist. You want to talk about something almost 10 years and ignore what transpired 6 months ago.

 

You've swallowed the MIC's propaganda hook, line and sinker.

 

You have nothing to debate, no facts to bring, and no logical retort.

So you just say "nah, you are ignorant".

If this is the best you got, put me on ignore. Because your response does nothing but waste space.

 

Oh, no facts you say? You mean like your previous post #118?

It's easy to spot someone that couldn't finger ukraine on a map before 2022 and consumes all that is spewed by the fake news as gospel.

 

You bring agitprop, not facts.

 

A good estimate is that Ukraine keeps inflicting casualties at about a 3:1 ratio in their favor, meaning Ukraine is winning the war of attrition.

And that's just the bodies. With the backing of the west, Ukraine can replace weapons and supplies at a much faster rate than Russia can.

Hence the Russian propaganda offensive.

 

Yep. I hear the Z army is down to recruiting men in their 60s at this point, and I saw that they broke a promise and expanded the conscription age range recently.

 

Shoigu is in NK on a 2 day visit?

Aka.....shopping/begging for hardware?

Looking to recruit NK conscripts maybe....since Topless one culled all the fighting age males in Siberia and Far East?