Ukrainian units are leaving behind their Western tanks and advancing slowly on foot after coming up

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Read the book "Air Battle Central Front". It and various other books that war gamed out the projected loss rates in a conventional NATO versus Warsaw Pact conflict were that NATO would lose more than half its aircraft within a week

 

Unrelated gibberish but also a big deal --- you are supposed to explaining why it is that Ukraine losing 30% of equipment and bodies in a 4 weeks is "Not a big deal" your book doesn't say this .. so all we have from the Teacher so far is a pile of undrelated nonsense .. a complete failure to back up your spurious claim .. wrong as wrong can be.

 

Ukraine is not suffering such losses, Gifter. You need to stop believing everything the KGB spooks in the Kremlin tell you.

 

What I posted is highly relevant as it illustrates just how high aircraft loss rates were likely to be in a major war with the Russians.

Given that you shouldn't be too hard on the Ukrainians for the losses they've suffered.

 

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/6609

even Zelensky hasn't snorted that much coke

 

June 1, 2022

Who knows if that's still the case. Things have evolved quite a lot since then.

 

The 30% Loss of men and equipment was not what I Posted .. but another poster .. and the source was not from the Kremlin but from Western Media . .. Got to stop seeing Russian's round every Corner Friend .. accusing all you meet of being Russian Agents ... any information conflicts with your perspective must be from the Kremlin .. this is parnoia deep destroya..

Was you who claimed no propaganda in Western Media and political Punditry -- the source is western Media owned by Political punditry . satisfying both .. so must be true . according to you. Why then are you saying is false .. like is some joke .. accusing others of being Russian Spys..

Just a paranoid conflicted twisted irrational contradictory mess you have going on there Friend.. and again your perspective is wrong .. even the Western Punditry is admittion Ukraine is taking a hard pounding .. things not going well .. and they continue to not go well .. Russia on the Offensive rather than Ukraine .. running out of ammo .. men and equipment geting wasted for no significant gain.

Been near 2 months now Durandal .. when they gonna breach the First line of Defense somewhere .. the Front line is hundreds of miles .. surely they should have found a weakness somewhere by now .. but nope .. just continue to get slaughtered in the Grey Zone.

Its a hard reality for you to accept I know .. getting everything wrong .. every time .. but once again you have somehow managed to have a perspective that is backwards from reality .. you would think after so many times .. you might learn to listen when the Prophet speaks.

 

Ukrainian forces launched a significant mechanized counteroffensive operation in western Zaporizhia Oblast on July 26 and appear to have broken through certain pre-prepared Russian defensive positions south of Orikhiv.


A Ukrainian serviceman prepares to fire a mortar. (Reuters)
Ukraine launches new push, claims gains against Russians in south
Kyiv’s goal is to reach the Sea of Azov, severing Moscow’s land bridge to occupied Crimea, a key conduit for moving Russian troops, equipment and supplies into Ukraine.
By John Hudson, Robyn Dixon and David L. Stern

 

Oh, they're working their way through the defensive lines. It's not something they can do overnight, obviously. Takes time to do it right and conserve as many lives and vehicles as possible. Lots of minefields to get through, after which there is no real challenge since the orcs aren't very good fighters and their equipment is inferior.

 

You sure talk about "coke" lots Bill?....you trying to tell us something?

 

F16s and clusters should clear up lotsa those mines.

Better yet....round up a few hundred POWs....that'll clear mine fields....something Stalin would do.

 

Your link wants people to sign up to be a Russian spy or something.
Got something legit?

 

Forget Stalin it is something General Sherman did during the Civil War.

 

Yeah, they have less artillery and weapons. Less weapons doesn't mean less casualties. Furthermore, zelensky's finest azov nazis have been killed, so I doubt the green teens are less likely to get hit.

But logic doesn't apply to those that think the ukies are busting through Russia's defensive lines....hell they can't get through the grey zone.

 

The Ukrainians are working their way through those defensive lines. That is a fact, as certain as Ukraine's earlier retaking of Kharkiv and Kherson. Watch and weep.

 

In large part that's because they're trying to undertake what is arguably the hardest type of military operation imaginable i.e. multiple large scale breaching operations of well prepared fixed defenses (in open terrain) in the absence of air and artillery superiority. Western military officers have commented that while their armies train for such operations the expectation going into such an operation in real life is that the they to would experience heavy casualties, even with the superior weaponry and training at their disposal.

Nor would I be crowing about the current situation if I were you, given how you've conveniently overlooked the fact has Russia has spent the last 12 months attempting to do exactly the same thing with zero almost success, squandering thousands of troops troops and hundreds of pieces of equipment in the process. For almost zero results.

And yet Ukraine is still making some limited progress and forcing Russia to expend resources it can't easily replace in the process. As it stands? Russia has lost all hope of forcing regime change, preventing Ukraine from joining NATO and the EU or seizing most of the country for itself. By every metric Putin himslef used to justify starting his 'special military operation' Ukraine is still winning.

 

Define legit.
Is Sputnik less legit than the NYT or CNN or MSNBC or Fox?
My link makes certain claims; it's likely some of them are true and some are false and some are propaganda.
How would you classify this one?

https://sputnikglobe.com/20230624/s...-turning-into-suicide-mission-1111441680.html

"The counteroffensive 'never had a chance to succeed,' and those who planned it knew it,

"Scott Ritter told Sputnik’s New Rules podcast.

"'And so if that’s the case, you have to ask yourself, why did this go forward? And I think it’s clear that this counteroffensive never had a legitimate military purpose.

"'It was always done for political reasons,' Ritter said, stressing that it’s important to remember that NATO, in its quest to 'hurt' Russia by pouring tens of billions of dollars into Ukraine, doesn't actually care about Ukrainians."

 

Scott Ritter has no credibility. He is a known pedophile and America hating person.

 

And makes good $$$ on his YT channel crapping out BS....and luring in subscribers to listen to it.

Much like MacGregor.

 

Aside from the vacuous Ad-Hom Fallacy --- of which the Cheer Team is famous. Prove your claim that Ritter is 1) Pedophile 2) America Hating.

LOL .. so anyone who disagree's with your perspective .. is now an America Hating Pedophile.. Wow Zoomie .. that is going right off the deep end of the spectrum .. Don't even think the Azov Nazi's you admire so much you parrot their Orc Trope go that far.

 

Why do disgraced Americans like Scott Ritter spout pro-Putin propaganda in Russia?
https://www.euronews.com/2023/05/24...t-ritter-spout-pro-putin-propaganda-in-russia

 

I would not trust any anti western source.

 

Isn't this minor conflict over yet?
It was to be a cake walk for the communists of russia.

 

He's raking in the $$$ on YT and plenty of suckers to soak it in....he can't make it real life no more since he's gotten the pecker wet in under age jail bait.

 

One of Scott Ritter's greatest hits from Jan 2022 ...

https://www.energyintel.com/0000017e-a069-de39-a9ff-bbf980230000

To summarize, he says the kindly Russians won't really invade Ukraine. But if they did, they could totally romp right through it. And that NATO is to weak to respond. And that Russia could cripple europe by withholding natural gas.

Impressive, how skilled Ritter was at being completely wrong about every single thing. That's a rare talent.