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Undervaccinated red states are nowhere near herd immunity as dangerous Delta variant spreads

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FreshAir, Jun 14, 2021
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    How reports of adverse reactions and/or deaths are handled.... chimp-earsplugged.jpg
     
    joesnagg, Jun 14, 2021
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    Really? How about a source?
     
    Nemesis, Jun 14, 2021
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  4. Hoosier8

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    Tell us what the R0 number is.
     
    Hoosier8, Jun 14, 2021
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  5. Nemesis

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    No. Cite a source for your bogus claims.
     
    Nemesis, Jun 14, 2021
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  6. Woogs

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    Mississippi has the lowest vaccination rate and was one of the earliest states to drop the mask mandate and basically fully open up.

    Here's how things are going here:

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    .(MSDH)
     
    Woogs, Jun 14, 2021
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  7. Hoosier8

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    I take it you don't even know what R0 is.
     
    Hoosier8, Jun 14, 2021
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    but, but, but, that's not possible!
     
    AKS, Jun 15, 2021
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    Why would a database that can only be submitted to by doctors inherently be any better? Experts do not have a monopoly on the truth, their claims are no more or less subject to investigation than anyone else's.
     
    Steady Pie, Jun 16, 2021
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    Vaccination won't necessarily make the difference between spreading and a complete stop to the spread.

    That's a little bit of a false assumption. (or at least one that's not entirely true)
     
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    kazenatsu, Jun 16, 2021
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    Transmission is irrelevant without the death and hospitalization rate to go with it. Why did you leave out that very important info?
     
    GrayMan, Jun 16, 2021
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    It fits with me and my experience. I'm younger and most people I know are below fifty. I don't know a single person who was hospitalized or died from covid. I know a lot of people who had covid though.
     
    GrayMan, Jun 16, 2021
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    like with all viruses, the more who catch it and recover, the more who have natural immunity going forward
     
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    Same with me, though slightly different age groups.

    And on the other hand, in the space of the last 5 months, I know 2 who have died from the shots, and 3 young women who have been maimed by the shots, including one miscarriage.
     
    Eleuthera, Jun 16, 2021
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    What, there isn't enough death and suffering for you? Is that it?
     
    Durandal, Jun 16, 2021
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    Transmission of 1 million people per second and a 0% death rate is still 0 people dead.
     
    GrayMan, Jun 16, 2021
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    Does Ice-T strike you as a reputable source for anything? Crip, trafficker in stolen goods, pimp, bank robber, went AWOL from the Army, etc.
     
    HurricaneDitka, Jun 16, 2021
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    Another example of how the (D)ishonest prey upon the emotions of the ignorant.

    If you aren't 65 or older with some other medical condition, Covid, in all of its forms, isn't a danger to you.
    .
     
    TOG 6, Jun 16, 2021
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    My ferret, always.

    Why should we worry? These are red states. It's yet another opportunity for conservatives to show how TOUGH they are
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jun 21, 2021
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    My Wife and I from red state Florida, joined the zombie horde and got our covid shots (Phizer) yesterday. Will return in four weeks for the booster. Cool that it's free in this overpriced world. Am looking forward to contact from the mother ship. Bit of natural soreness from needle into arm muscle.
     
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    I understand your fear.
     
    Hoosier8, Jun 21, 2021
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    "SO DOES THAT MEAN REQUIRING OR ENCOURAGING VACCINATION WOULD BE A BREACH OF MEDICAL ETHICS?" For college-aged, vaccination risks likely outweigh COVID risks, says UCI medical ethics chief.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/458681/

    Yes. That is what it means.
    No evidence of widespread fraud in the system, in fact,
    Facts, refuting vaccine fundies.
     
    Zorro, Jun 29, 2021
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    Is China pumping out more variants still?
     
    21Bronco, Jun 29, 2021
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    I live in a conservative state and I am by means a conservative. I actually just got my first moderna shot today. But I also can’t blame those who don’t want it. My wife is one of them and after youth males have found to be getting enlarged hearts (I can’t remember the medical term) after vaccination I don’t blame her for not wanting our kids to get it. They’re statistically more likely to survive this disease anyway. So people’s beliefs should be left to them. I’m not the type to try and force or shame anyone into getting it. Why? Because I believe in the freedom of choice.

    on another note I’m shocked that democrats are playing that card. What happened to the “it’s my body it’s my choice” argument? Democrats are pro drug should not drug users get a different license because they’re statistically less like to cause an accident? Should abortion’s lose their argument as well? When did you all get into the habit of ridiculing what people do with their body?
     
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    Joe knows, Jun 29, 2021
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