Undervaccinated red states are nowhere near herd immunity as dangerous Delta variant spreads

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Yup.

    An unvaccinated 60 year old has 99.9% odds of surviving COVID.
    A vaccinated 60 year old has 99.99% odds of surviving COVID.

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    Current surge is likely a combination of recklessness by the vaccinated and Biden's COVID hotels full of infected illegals.
     
  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did the math. Between 64 and 75 the survival rate is 99.994% based on the number died in that age group.
     
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    Those are pretty good odds.
     
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    Those are pretty good odds.
    Zero out of a 100
    Zero out of a 1,000
    Zero out of a 10,000
    6 out of a 100,000
     
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    Here's the odds of ME, YOU, and THEM of dying of covid in the U.S.

    a. Total Covid19 Deaths; 632,987

    b. ENTIRE, ENTIRE, ENTIRE, ENTIRE, ENTIRE U.S. Population; 333,130,197

    632,987/333,130,197 = 0.19%................................odds of surviving; 99.81%

    QUESTION; How come my ''ANY AGE'', and ENTIRE population odds of surving covid is lower than YOUR between 64 and 75 survival rate of 99.994%?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    PSST; I'm watching you, thus, think twice before you post.

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  6. Hey Now

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    Let's assume your math is accurate. The numbers that you have derived ALSO factor in mitigation measures like the lock down(s), masking, border closures to international travel, etc. You need to consider all factors those numbers actually represent.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The majority that die are over 75.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No measure will stop a virus like this. In fact locking people inside is the worst thing you can do.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting that everyone who has not died of Covid is a"survivor". Maybe you should only look at those who got it and survived. Not sure how anyone can pretend that 600 000 dead Americans is not a significant number.
     
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    Show me your math because your response is nonsensical.
     
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    "Mitigate" does not equate to "stop". in addition, your post is now moving away from your "statistics" you claimed to have calculated. China locked people inside.
     
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    Heart disease kills that many in a year. 1/2 are obese. How many of the alleged deaths have died of the above ‘with’ Covid?
     
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    YOUR QUOTE: I did the math. Between 64 and 75 the survival rate is 99.994% based on the number died in that age group.

    Show me your math

    Also, what's the covid survival rate for people age 75 and older?
     
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    Here's the reason why your brain doesn't make any sense;

    YOU SAID: The Covid Survival Rate for people age between 65 and 74 is 99.994%

    Here's my math;

    a. How many people age between 65 and 74 died of covid? 134,045 deaths

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

    b. What's the population of people between age 65 and 74? 31 million

    https://acl.gov/sites/default/files/Aging and Disability in America/2019ProfileOlderAmericans508.pdf

    Odds of dying; 134,045 Deaths/31 Million Pop; 0.43%

    Odds of surviving covid between age 65 and 74; 99.57%................YOUR odds of surviving; 99.994%, way higher than my calculation, and I'm using Number of covid deaths per age group DIVIDED by population per age group.



    NOW, show me your math!
     
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  15. fullmetaljack

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    He won’t because he can’t. He just makes this stuff up or repeats right wing propaganda.
     
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    Also think about a big percentage of the deaths, nursing homes. 133,513 Considering the average stay in nursing homes is less than a year anyway, that’s a lot of people who died from Covid who were going to die whether they were infected or not, so as far as it’s deadliness goes, you can almost take those off the table. They were statistically dead If Covid never existed.
     
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    LOL you making fun of a difference of less than a half of 1%. I'm sure he'll give in if your 65-75, you have less than a half of a percent of dying of covid, even using the most basic numbers and not including other factors.
     
  18. fullmetaljack

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    Actually, we’re making fun of him making stuff up and repeating right wing propaganda.
     
  19. nopartisanbull

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    Florida's Covid Confirmed Daily Hospital Admissions

    Aug; 13; 2,347
    Aug 12; 2,305
    Aug 11; 2,338
    Aug 10; 2,294
    Aug 09; 2,083
    Aug 08; 2,064
    Aug 07; 2,179
    Aug 06; 2,208
    Aug 05; 2,149
    Aug 04; 2,112
     

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