US soldier self immolation outside Israeli embassy

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  1. Heartburn

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    I have been burned. He was nuts.
     
  2. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Cannon fodder then..

    If only you were as dedicated to something as he was..the world would be a better place to live but alas, we are living in the times of the great satan.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Anti-indiscriminate bombing of civilians and total disregard for their lives. Yes.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If cleansing doesn't matter, why are you criticizing Israel? It appears as though you have resorted to an ad hom fallacy. That is the preferred strategy for those unable to defend their position on merit. I am far from being a liberal.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Israel warns civilians, but Hamas puts them in harms way so they can blame Israel.
     
  6. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What in the world are you talking about?? Where did I say I want people 'cleansed'?? I don't want Israelis being killed, and I don't want Palestinians being killed. NOBODY needs to die. To say that it is necessary for people to die is ****ing bizarre.
     
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    That would be your term, not mine. All this talk about great satans, better steer clear of bonfires.
     
  8. Esau

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    And what are you dedicated too exactly, America?
     
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    What do you care, I'm not going to set myself on fire to get your attention.
     
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    America it is then.

    What exactly do you propose is your interest in the nation of Israel then, since that's the topic?

    Or are you just here to be contrary and seeking attention to your off brand rhetoric as others here are attempting?
     
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    My government has guaranteed Israel's existence and I support my government. What dog do you have in the fight? Do you really give a damn about either side or just against the one America supports?
     
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    My dog is the nation of Israel, directly.

    Are you really going to be a blind poodle to a foreign power thousands of miles away for reasons unbeknown to you, or do you actually have a real dog in this?
     
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  13. Bob Newhart

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    The U.S. does not have any treaties with Israel. They are the only things U.S. citizens are bound by. The U.S. does have agreements with Israel but nothing which guarantee's Israel's existence.

    Microsoft Word - TIF Supplement - 2023 COPY (state.gov)
     
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    The reasons for this episode of the conflict are very ambitious, to end Hamas attacks on Israel. Maybe a little too ambitious. The propaganda war is intense and seemingly effective and will probably shut the Israelis down. I was hoping we would see them accomplish their goal but there are no end to the people willing to show them how to lose.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I demand my government do the right, moral thing. Our government works for us, not the other way around. Blindly supporting the government is the most un-American thing I can imagine, and what has lead to the massive problems we have today. Our current foreign policies enact the will of the elites of the world, not the American people. Stop being a blind follower, subservient to the world's elite that don't care about you. They care about their own wealth and power. Demand better from your government. You are supposed to be a free man, not a subservient, blind follower of the will of your betters.
     
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    And yet you never showed me your dog.

    Why is it that you personally support Israel, nevermind your elites and their reasoning, which is likely monetary gain?

    Show me it's not a blind faith
     
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    Very harsh but elements of truth
     
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    I've watched the conflict for decades and I choose to support the side I think is right. I don't have skin in the game (dog).
     
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    Why do you think Israel is right though, that's my undermining question?
     
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    Because they have been under constant attack and they deserve to have peace and security.
     
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    Meanwhile, you don't see anyone setting themselves on fire to protest the war in Ukraine. Why? Because it's not a war. It's a money laundering operation.
     
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    It is a shame he didn't get the help he needed. I will mourn his passing, but I will not be celebrating his suicide by pretending it was noble in some way.
     
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    We literally have thousands upon thousands of Ukranians sacrificing their lives to protect their homeland. Just because they do so I actual war and not in a publicity gimmick like this doesn't make their deaths magically disappear
     
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    Their deaths don't make the Ukraine war any less of a money laundering operation, either.
     
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    US soldier self immolation outside Israeli embassy

    It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him....
     

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