Was God creating Satan a good idea?

WTF does choosing one or the other have to do with what God created?

 

I'm guessing this "God" thingy created Evil so it could use it on the things it created....If the books about it are accurate, it is evil incarnate.

 

your religious book says it, so it must be true?

 

Before the knowledge of good and evil was obtained by man, man didn't have a choice. After the fact, man has a choice. It is a very hard choice, because lucipher is a master of deception, lies and doubt. For the first trick of satan was to instill doubt in man.

Genesis 3:2
Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Indeed, has God said, 'You shall not eat from any tree of the garden '?" 2The woman said to the serpent, "From the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat; 3but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'"…
4The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die! 5"For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."…When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate; and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate.

I have put those words in red for a reason. The reason is Eve knew the word of God (red), and repeated it to the serpent. The serpent's (satan) first trick, was to put doubt into Eve (green). He made her doubt that she would not only not die, but become wise and Godlike knowing both good and evil. Satan had opened a door that was shut on him. Can or does he open that door with you? For he uses the same tactics, he is limited.

All I can tell you is that God can only be proven by the individual. If it is your choice to not seek God, He will not reveal Himself to you, leaving you to believe He don't exist. If you choose to seek Him, He will not only reveal Himself to you, He will reward you! If you can't believe this, just try it.

 

Boastful arrogance to assume one has more knowledge than our Father in Heaven. Hold your tongue.

Proverbs 10:31
The mouth of the just bringeth forth wisdom: but the froward tongue shall be cut out.

KJV Dictionary Definition: froward

froward

FRO'WARD, a. L. versus: turned or looking from.

Perverse, that is, turning from, with aversion or reluctance; not willing to yield or comply with what is required; unyielding; ungovernable; refractory; disobedient; peevish; as a froward child.

They are a very froward generation, children in whom is no fair. Deut. 32.

frowardness

FRO'WARDNESS, n. Perverseness; reluctance to yield or comply; disobedience; peevishness.

 

Firstly....The arrogance displayed here is to be found all over your reply.

Secondly...You God is an imagined and fabricated societal creation.

Thirdly...Your personal opinion is a valuable as mine, I simply state it with a bit more honestly and less vitriol.

And finally...spouting biblical references to make a point is as helpful as me quoting Bilbo Baggins to insult you.

 

Ever consider Satan in your mythology rebelled against God for a good reason after all using the Bible, Koran and Torah God (Allah) isn't a very moral being and Satan in comparison did nothing bad other than rebel and made a war on a Tyrant. If this was a human government we would call such a rebel a hero and his compatriots noble resistance to a Tyrant whose blood thirsty, fickle and to my view irrational while Satan is consistent in he opposes God. Just giving my perspective as a outside observer to the argument.

 

Yeah ok, what is this elementary. satan is full of illness, lies, deceives, murders, rapes, the list goes on. God is love, justice, truth, righteousness. They are the complete opposite of eachother and you claim it is satan that is the good one. Your soul is gone.

 

If your child was disrespectful to you for 1 millisecond, would it be appropriate punishment to lock them in the basement and torture them for 70 years?

Because that is the scale of the "Justice" offered by your God. Finite crimes are punished with eternal torture. It's the single most unjust and immoral system that could possibly exist.

 

But God knows everything a person will do before they are born yes?

And God cannot be wrong, yes?

So you cannot act in any way save what God foresaw. You don't have free will if God has omniscience.

 

You didn't answer my question......God's Deal is "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose"....if we do as He says, He rewards us with Heaven, but HE still gets credit for it...

if we don't do as He says, we go to Hell, but it's OUR fault.....right?

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Given jrr777's other responses to direct questions...i.e. dodges...I'd expect him to dodge the Predestination Question with a Ted Cruz-style filibuster that doesn't actually answer the question.

 

Much like how if I walk up to you on street, put a gun to your head and demand your money or I will kill you, and you refuse it is your wish to die and I cannot be blamed for the coercive position I forced you into against you will.

 

I am not calling you ignorant, but your acting that way.

Here you are putting someone's life in danger, just by putting the gun to their head. Then you threaten to kill them, so you can steal from them. And you blame this on God. Instead of letting lucipher control your mind. Try using it for yourself.

If you put a gun to my head, then threaten to kill me if I don't give you my money, more than likely I'm going to laugh at you while at the same time punching you in the face. For your not going to shoot me, otherwise you would without asking, and then simply take the money. If your truly ready to take one's life so you can take their money. Why would you ask them anything, just kill them and take their money. This is an act of satan, not God.

 

Obviously you are without a child. For if a child gets out of line, you put them in their place. Spare the rod, spoil the child. If we, as God's children get out of line, He is going to put us in our place.

God is the creator, he created everything, and anything made was made through Him. It does not matter if God is good or bad, He created everything therefore His will be done. You should be thankful He is Love.

 

Which begs the question - could God really have created woman without crafting Satan first?
You know - the whole practice makes perfect thing?

 

Do you have a child? When your child is presented with certain circumstances, do you not know how he/she will act, or the choices they will make? This is applicable with all family members and friends, so long as you know them. If you know somebody that smokes marijuana, when that person is asked if they want to smoke, can you give their answer?

"You will know them, by their fruits".---Jesus

 

you understand this in no way addresses or answers the question right?

 

If somebody killed your child or someone that you deeply love. According to you this is an ok act, and should go unpunished. For whosoever is taken out of this world, they are to never return to it. You would have this person thrown in jail until they die, and to you that is equal punishment. Only your forgetting the fact that this person took a life. Him giving his life, is not equal, even if he did it willingly. The person he killed, didn't have a choice, and is lost forever.

Now on a smaller criminal scale, it matters not, for anything evil sides with the murderer. Sin is not of God, it opposes Him.

You seem to be missing the fact that in our world or realm, there is love and evil. Which one do you side with? For God is love, and satan is evil, or without love, heartless. You want to pretend that there is no spiritual battle going on, also known as tribulation. When in fact that is all that is going on, your missing it because the master of lies and deception. He's got you by the baseballs.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

I am sure you are very pleasing to satan, maybe he likes the message you spread for him. Rest assured, when he no longer wants you, he will take your soul and devour you. Your protector is the one you abandoned.

 

My bad I replied to wrong person. That's twice I have done that, today. If I blame it on Monday, does that mean it's not my fault?

 

You seriously don't get what I'm saying. The idea that people "choose" to go to Hell is absurd. God created a system that is coercive and involuntary, just like a mugger with a gun forcing you to choose between giving up your money or dying. There is no real free choice there and refusing to give up your money doesn't mean it suddenly becomes suicide if the mugger shoots you.

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Where was God's love when he commanded the death of the Amelekite children?

 

no. maybe try answering the question now?

 

Why don't you try asking God. Seek the truth on your own. Otherwise you don't really care.

 

My take is that Satan is part of God. He can no more vanquish Satan than he could create Satan.

 

that is your 3rd dodge. One more chance then I'll accept your concession that you can't support your position.