Was God creating Satan a good idea?

I guessed I missed you saying God is a sinner. Because that is what a jealous God is, per the christian definition of jealousy and your definition of God when people turn to Satan.

 

Too hard for jrr777 to attempt an answer to this. Or there really is no answer that makes sense.

 

Your claims show your hypocrisy, for if your child was killed by someone, would you not want justice? For none of us can uphold the laws of God, and it is for this reason that none of us are innocent. Therefore we must be judged. We are not to judge one another, that is for God. However, Jesus did say, "If you must judge, judge righteously". Another words judge as if you were judging someone you loved. "Love thy neighbor as thyself", this one law has all others fall in place.

The Sabbath Day is a Holy day. And it must not be forgotten. For most it already has, for the Sabbath is Saturday, the last day of the week, which is when God rested from creation. Not by coincidence, but also the day Jesus had risen from the grave.

Spare the rod, spoil the child. His laws are for good reason. You have far more laws made by man, that are far more ridiculous than the Sabbath. Yet you abide by those everyday all the time.

Let Him without sin, cast the first stone. If your going to dog Christianity, at least stay up to date. For Jesus did not come to abolish the Old Testament, He came to fulfill it. Therefore, it has been fulfilled. It is the new covenant that you must worry about, not the old. Also you claim that God or Jesus is not around like some deadbeat dad. This is not true, for both of them are always here, if you choose to seek them. For God or Jesus, will never abandoned us, it is us who abandoned them.

To believe God does not exist, or even a creator does not exist. Is implying we came from nothing, and that there is no significance of mankind or earth. Scientists would have you believe we are nothing more than cosmic coincidence. And it seems they have you, fooled. Where then did the universe come from? I am sure I know your answer. Which is, "it does not matter". You feel if somebody wants to go on a killing spree, that it is ok. For there is nobody to answer to, other than man. A killer goes to prison, where he has everything provided for him, much easier survival, than that of the streets.

You would have to believe that after death, it is no different than before you was born, just completely non existent. Where then does your heart come from? Why don't you just take from those that are weaker than you, why don't you steal? Why not do any sin, if it benefits you? Or the saying, "come on, have a heart". Why have a heart? A lion with a heart, does not survive. A ferocious, heartless lion, one that feeds on the weak, is a survivor. This is applicable for all predators. However man, is far superior than such behavior.

It would seem to you, that whatever would be considered evil through those of faith, is nothing more than unpopular. Such as punching someone in the face, to you it is not wrong in the eyes of God, rather popular opinion that makes it wrong. The evil and killing that the world leaders do, who also sit and live in luxury, while sending men and woman to lose their lives, so they can continue that life of luxury. To you, there are no consequences for these people. They can merely continue their evil deeds without answering to anybody. And if you was to catch them doing wrong deeds, they would have you or your loved ones, threatened or killed, without consequence. This is not reality, for they will be judged by the Almighty, and judged with higher standards for the positions they was in.

 

Life throws choices at you, from those choices God knows who you are. He knows what's in your heart. It allows Him to see what is the most likely choice you will make, when facing certain situations. This is what allows Him to choose people to do His will. Same with nations and kingdoms. He can see the spirit in you, or if it is not in you.

 

So if you had god's super-powers right now, would you bypass those evil powers that are apparently keeping the cure for cancer from the world, and give the cure the victims more directly, so that the evil powers would largely not be able to quash the cure, jrr777? I would. You seem as caring as me, so I assume that you would too?

 

I pick "both".

 

So a being who knows all this, how can it be a jealous being? Envious of satan. God already knows all things and to assign a sinful trait to such a being is, silly.

 

Your argument is based off you thinking you know God. However you don't.

Your excuses might make you feel better for claiming God does not exist. Making you feel better for your sins. satan must be very pleased with you. You allow him easy temptation, and deception upon you. I hope you can see this one day, and hopefully soon. May our Father bless you, and touch you with the spirit.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

The people of earth, have allowed God to be taken out of our lives. Why would God do anything for us, when we do nothing for him? He won't, He will simply remove His hands of protection and give us what we have asked for.

A relationship with God is protection from evil. Illness is evil. It is not in the kingdom, it is not of God, rather satan. Who the world tends to enjoy more. Therefore God will allow us to have everything that comes with him. Sickness.

 

Jesus was not killed... and definitely not me, in fact per the story, God told Jesus he would only not punish us if he could get man to kill him, nice dad eh?

lets say Jesus is real, Gods cant be killed, so Jesus would of been faking his death to look cool or something and then faking like he was stuck in his dead body for 3 days, again cause he thought it would make him look cool or something

makes for a good story, but it's nothing more then a story

the reason the story of Jesus was created was to end the rein of the evil God, to make God have to be good cause we killed his son.... right

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Not sure where you come up with such nonsense, but it would seem satan has you deceived, he is after your soul.

Before Christ, we had to perform a sacrifice for forgiveness. Jesus allowed us to be forgiven simply by asking. Of course He knows what is truly in your heart, this allows Him to know if your truly seeking forgiveness, if it is truly in your heart. Or if your just saying it.

 

Your reply is that you would NOT give us the cure for cancer if you had it (if you had god's super-powers), so may I suggest a far more caring, far more compassionate belief system to you: Modern Secular Humanism. We certainly would indeed give humanity the cure for cancer if we had god's alleged super-powers. Join us in raising the moral level of the world - I know you can do it. You'd care for your children/family even more than you do now, because as a Modern Secular Humanist you could then say "yes" to the question "would you give the world the cure for cancer if you had god's alleged super-powers". It's really a great feeling to be that ethical and caring, trust me.

 

How many highly elected officials do you know of getting cancer? They have the cure, so your modern secular humanism is what is keeping it from the public. Why would God do anything for us, when we are kicking Him out of the country and our lives? Siding with the fallen one, and abandoning God. The only thing God is going to do, is allow it to happen. If it is evil we choose, than evil will be unleashed upon earth. When this occurs, you will be begging for death. But death will not come. You will be blaming God, but it was our free will that allowed evil to take hold. For we not only allowed it, but chose it.

Your political correctness with this modern secular humanism, is merely a deception to detour you from God. Is it working?

Do not just read these words as if there is no meaning behind them. Read them as if there was.

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

 

All I can say is OH MY GOD! (And I'm an atheist!)

 

Atheism is a religion. But yes, God is there for you.

You act as if there is no cure. Yes elected officials do get cancer, however if they did not allow a few, how than could they keep it from us? Don't worry it will all be revealed shortly. For everything hidden shall come to light. I hope your not hiding anything, because here shortly it will all be revealed. And you can spare your reply, for I know what your going to say. I guess I'm just smart like that.

We can split an atom, smash particles at the speed of light, clone humans and animals, redistribute dna from one species to another, create diseases (biological warfare) and the cure for them, genetically modify foods for faster crop growth. I can go on and on. And yet you think they cannot find a cure for cancer. Do you honestly think they would cure something that gives them billions. Cure cancer, or allow people to be in the hospital for days or weeks, and all the prescription drugs. The make way to much to defy the status quo.

"Do not be deceived by any means".

 

So your "god" is not powerful enough to get the cure to cancer directly to the people then....he sounds like a quite powerless all-powerful god. If he's that powerless then he's likely powerless in giving you a promised "after-life", too. Time to leave him.
Have a great night.

 

I'm afraid that you're buying into their lie - Jesus lied about basically the same thing when he said he's return "soon", and he also said he'd return w/in the lifetime of his followers, so Jesus was a liar. Don't believe liars, my friend, you are better than that. You deserve better than to be lied to.

 

Actually, Modern Secular Humanism is far more ethical than religions, as Modern Secular Humanists would indeed give the world the cure if they had it, and would also, for example, let non-Modern Secular Humanists (Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, etc.) into "heaven" and avoid "hell", just for thinking differently than we do. We are more tolerant than Jesus/Mohammad, etc. and their followers (who won't condemn Jesus/Mohammad's bigotry, which is a akin to a form of almost racism, against non-believers.)

We love more than most religions and most religious people do, so hopefully they can become more loving and compassionate, like we are. Jesus/Mo have hatred towards the non-believers for not thinking like they do.

 

it comes from the bible, some people believe that nonsense though