Was Jesus the First Republican?

for 3rd time, that was written long before Republican capitalism wherein you get rich by inventing cures for cancer and Iphones. In Biblical times you got rich by being liberal i.e., connected to a central govt that enabled you to conquer kill enslave tax and exploit others. Indeed, today the rich are among the first to get into heaven. Do you understand?

 

and that would mean implementing Republican capitalism. China just did and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on earth and prevented another 60 million from slowly starving to death under oh so caring liberalism. Do you understand?

 

well thank God we have morally superior liberals to prevent that!!.... with socialism that killed 120 million human souls while trying to take of them.

 

Obviously he created those resources to be distributed by Republican capitalism since 100's of millions seem to slowly and painfully die when they are distributed by liberal socialism, the greatest evil in human history.

 

Ah we can agree on that! I don't like neoliberal driven capitalism, what the republicans support, but I like other forms of capitalism. The kind that created the largest middle class in world history not that long ago. The current capitalism is destroying the middle, not growing it. Or sustaining it.

So capitalism yes, republican/democrat neoliberal capitalism, no.

 

For a capitalistic system to have a Commons is not socialism. It has killed no one. So stop confusing the two?

 

Bernie is open socialist as are most Democrats!

Sanders:
"You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood

exactly that is a key NaziMarxist economic idea. Avoid wasteful duplication in marketing manufacturing distribution advertising etc by having one state deodorant and one state car. This is why when I rented a car in Hungary in 1985 it had a dip stick rather than a gas gauge and a gravity fed carburetor so that you had to back it up hills to keep the gas flowing, and why 120 million humans slowly starved to death in the USSR and Red China!. Liberals simply lack the IQ to understand how capitalism works.

 

totally wrong as always. Middle class destroyed by liberal unions regulations and taxes shipping jobs to China!!

 

I don't understand what you are trying to say....sorry. Everything God wants to deal with is "relational".....an attitude of the heart. He is all good. The early church had a heart after God. They believed and received. Not all are required to give everything they have. God knows every individual is unique. Jesus told a rich man to give away everything and follow Him. The rich man couldn;t do it. Jesus knew the mans heart and that he had a problem with money. He didn't say that to all the rich men he knew. In fact, Jesus was laid in the tomb of a wealthy friend named Joseph.

 

Problem with an "organized effort" of government has too many hand in the till. Many beuraucrats making a luxurious living off of monies meant for the needy. There are many examples around. Jesse Jackson...champion of the poor.....multi-millionaire. Nanci Pelosi ....champion of the poor..... one of the wealthiest women in America. Giving to the government instead of directly giving to someone in need, robs the giver of a blessing. I know many wealthy people that give generously of their own free will. And socialist Progressives would judge and kick them to the curb just because they hate success.

 

Well, the great depression taught us that demand can far exceed private charity and charitable hearts! So charity is nice, but it is far from sufficient. As we rush to the bottom in wages. Globalism. A scheme.

 

Simple. God created man and the resources needed to sustain him and even allow him to prosper. But he left it up to man to see to it that all of his created humans are sustained and perhaps can prosper by getting a sufficient share of the resources that come from God.

So man came up with socialism and capitalism. Neither one sees to it that all of God's creation can get what God gave them and created for them.

 

Charity is nice but redistribution of income at the point of a gun is stealing.

 

Taxation is not stealing. It is the cost for you living in a modern civilization. No free lunch for you! ha ha( you don't get freebies, just the poor get them)

 

Taxation is different than the redistribution of wealth. How can I spell that out forya?

 

How else is wealth redistributed if not by using tax money to finance a Commons? Taxation and the redistribution of wealth are tied at the hip. You don't see one without the other. ha ha

 

This may be difficult for you to understand......but there are no entitlements. You are not entitled to my money and I am not entitled to yours. You pay your fair share for roads and defence in proportion to what you make and so will I. There is joy in making a living and providing for others. There is no joy in having money confiscated into the slick little hands of government leeches.

 

This may be even more difficult for you to understand. Civilized, civilizations collectively feed and care for their poor who would starve if not for help. Using the word entitlement, does not change the reality of what a civilized nation will do and will not do. And they will not do what you want, no matter how much you use "entitlement to my money" argument.

The cost for you living in a civilized society is what you are paying for with your taxes. IF you feel the need to help the poor even more, you can always use a charity.

 

The fact remains, faith-based organizations feed the poor and a lot more efficiently with a lot less fraud.

 

Taxation is a shared effort by "all", not just those who produce, to provide for the common good. Nana boo boo

 

Actually Jesus said nothing about liberty. Here are some quotes from Jesus and his followers.

Jesus believes money belongs to the government so Roman invaders have the right to take the Jew's money without representation because the money forced on them was printed by Roman's and has Caesar's image on it:
Matthew 22:
17 Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?”
18 But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, “You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me?
19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax.” They brought him a denarius,
20 and he asked them, “Whose image is this? And whose inscription?”
21 “Caesar’s,” they replied. Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

And guess where the divine right of kings idea comes from? The bible.

Romans 13:
1 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God.
2 So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded. Those who are against the government bring punishment on themselves.
3 People who do right don’t have to fear the rulers. But those who do wrong must fear them. Do you want to be free from fearing them? Then do only what is right, and they will praise you.
4 Rulers are God’s servants to help you. But if you do wrong, you have reason to be afraid. They have the power to punish, and they will use it. They are God’s servants to punish those who do wrong.
5 So you must obey the government, not just because you might be punished, but because you know it is the right thing to do.
6 And this is why you pay taxes too. Those rulers are working for God, and they give all their time to the work of ruling.
7 Give everyone what you owe them. If you owe them any kind of tax, then pay it. Show respect to those you should respect. And show honor to those you should honor.

 

You think feeding a few kids change much? Africa is still poor even with the billions we give them in charity.

 

What a joke. They do contribute, but most have a set of rules where they will help a poor family once, and then no more. That is how it works here where I live. We found out during the great depression that the number of charitable hearts was far too low to meet the demand.

Never depend upon a man's better nature, for he indeed may not have one...Robert Heinlein penned that long ago. It is the truth.

 

And even the poor who might not eat, because they are paying other than income taxes, pay some of the taxes. Just not income taxes. Of course, given what I can discern of your beliefs, from your posts, I doubt if you would have a problem with taxing the poor who already don't have enough to survive without welfare, plus their low wage job. If they do without food or meds, for them or their kids, because you imposed an income tax on poverty income, I just doubt you would care at all. But enough humans do care, and thank god for them.

 

The idea is to change the minds and hearts of its leaders. Jesus said the poor would always be with us. What progressives never understand is that you don't solve the problem by throwing money at it. Of course they like to throw money at it because they await on the fringe to get what they can for themselves.