Was Jesus the First Republican?

I see both conservatives and liberals throw money at charity. The best thing we can do is education and fix their cultures.

 

Robert Heinlan was right.... "never depend on a man's better Nature". Faith based orgs. as you said feed a poor family once. Give them a helping hand. See if they can be inspired to help themselves. If they aren't, move on to those that are. Humans are given sovereign choice. We must recognize that. Government wants to maintain and feed slothfulness.....that is how it grows. And their are plenty of "feeders" on the fringes of that slothfulness that take from that.

 

At the same time we need to "fix ours". You have hit to the root of the problem my friend.

 

Yes, the US has a huge poverty and education problem and we aren't effectively addressing it.

 

I do believe human beings are entitled to fail if they do not put forth effort. Government is unable to and unwilling to discern that effort. Perhaps government would do better on a far more local level. Government has too many feeders on the fringes. That is why individual charity holds giving to be more accountable.

 

Education has become largely "indoctrination". Proof is that social engineering has become the focus rather than trades that help one earn a living. Instead of social engineering, ethics and charactor building need to be emphasized.....but we can't seem to agree upon what is good charactor or good ethics. That subject has been replaced by "situational ethics" and "moral relatavism". That has began our culture on a downward slide.

 

Most poor people work and do put forth the effort. Poverty has followed man throughout history since the rise of civilization. It is not going away and as christ said, the poor will always be with us. You trust in his words? If so then the only question is, do you feed them, or allow them to starve? This is what it boils down to. Being a moral nation, we decided to not allow them to starve, and IMO, if there is a God, he likes this.

 

"The Kingdom of God is not meat nor drink but righteousnes, peace and joy In the Holy Spirit:"Those words fly right over your head.
.Some humans would rather starve
death than to embrace righteousness and you enable them often times. Giving is not always appropriate in terms of material things. Sometimes it is a downtrodden spirit that need to be lifted up. You nor government acknowlege that.

 

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The kingdom of god, is a different dimension, and christ said it was within you. If one finds that kingdom that person will take care of the poor. Trouble is, so few find that kingdom and so the society must step in and take care of the poor by using some of the taxes for caring instead of war mongering.

 

& here's how they do it:
https://patriotpost.us/articles/56448-crying-wolf-on-entitlements

 

I have talked about how SS should be reformed, but only mentioned a couple things. It has not been managed well at all, which illustrates we have incompetent people in both parties.

But we also know that in the time of Ike we still had a faction within the GOP that wanted to get rid of SS. Ike spoke strongly to these kind of people. Today, that faction who are now also slave labor globlists, still want to see SS destroyed. I think they are idiots and refuse to consider this will only create more problems, not solve much of anything. Sometimes the values that a conservative has will insure more problems will be created than solved if you give them their way. And the same applies to the radical left.

 

I believe SS should be privatized as it originally was intended. Government, at best, should help people to help themselves. Setting up a buraucracy so it could be stolen from....is not my idea. Don't know what you are referring to as "slave labor globalists". In my estimation those are the ones crying for open borders and dispensing entitlements around the world. I don't see them as wanting to destroy SS but rather to make it all inclusive. Personally, I am of the America 1st thought. We get our own house in order so we can be that shining light on a hill.

 

I didn't learn a lot of ethics in school honestly and don't remember a lot of indoctrination. I don't think kids should be learning a trade because what you need to learn is very specific to the trade you want to go into. I'd drop classes that aren't helpful like advanced math, chemistry, physics, and soft classes that aren't useful. Instead we should teach money management, debate and critical thinking, life skills, transition to adulthood, reading, writing, history, politics, etc. Colleges should mostly focus on marketable skills and cut out the fluff.

 

Jesus Was a Democrat Lyrics



Jesus Christ didn't have blue eyes or blond hair
He looked just like all those people that you want to kill
Spin your hell into a heaven you can sell
Make it look like California with a bible belt
Jesus didn't look like the boy next door
Unless you live in Palestine
I wonder what you mean by the golden rule
I think it is a scary play on words
I wonder what they taught you back in Sunday school

I bet you think of him
As a nice clean long haired Republican, nah
He would be all locked up in Guantanamo Bay
If he were alive today
He would have been a revolutionary
Wanted by the CIA

I picture him in all the wrong places
Finding diamonds in the dirt
A star of David tattoo
And a Che t-shirt
Jesus Christ was a left wing radical Jew
Murdered by people like you

If Jesus was a Democrat like the bible says he was
I don't think he's going to want to take the blame
For all the awful things you say and do in his name

If Jesus was alive he would be sad to see
That it is no different than it used to be
Someday he's going to call you out
I am pretty god d***ed sure ......
He is going to be angry
He is going to be angry

You want to know what I think?.......

I think Jesus would have been a card carrying liberal
If he was a young man born in the USA

He would not be "fiscally conservative"
And he wouldn't vote for John McCain
All those so called Christians that you see on TV
Maybe they scare Jesus like they scare me
Kick you the hell out of my temple too
Too many elephants in the room

If Jesus was a Democrat like the bible says he was
I don't think he's going to want to take the blame
For all the awful things you people do and say in his name

If Jesus was alive today he would be sad to see
That it is no different than it used to be
Someday he's going to call you out
I am pretty god d***ed sure......
He is going to be....mad
He is going to be angry
He is going to be....mad
He is going to be....mad
You say Jesus loves the little children
And I say I know that's true
I say he loves all the Muslims and the Jews
All the addicts and the p*** stars too
You say Jesus died to save us all from a fiery hell
I say Jesus died to save us
Save us from ourselves
Will you save me from myself?

If Jesus was a liberal like the red letters say he was
I know he would have big love for all the killers and the racists
And the bullies in this world

If Jesus was alive today
And you had a chance to meet him face to face
I'm pretty g********* sure that you and your friends
Would find some way to kill him all over again
You would kill him all over again
Again and again and again
Just like you always do
You do just what you always do

 

There you go. Ethics need to be taught at home. Actually, for a while after the nation was founded, the Bible was the instrument from which we learned "English skills". It's purpose was several fold. We learned to read, learned good sentence structure as well as the ethics taught there in. We teach poetry in English today yet there is none better than Proverbs. All the time good ethics are in the forefront. Instead we teach fluff.

 

There is a lot better writing out there than the bible but its a decent source I guess. I do think we need to teach ethics or our civilization will degrade and schools should back up parents. I see so many kids of the ghetto who really need to learn better ethics in school.

 

I'm pretty sure the author of the poem would be leading the crucifixtion squad or he wouldn't use the lLords name in vain, masking it with *'s. Sure, you think you are laid back, Holier than thou in your own eyes, but all you do is show your lack of knowlege of anything resembling Holiness.

 

I don't think you really understand what the writer is getting at. Sure, the use of naughty words is not compatible with Jesus's teachings. But killing others and exterminating races of people like professing Christian right wingers do in his name is utter evil. That is why he could never have been a Republican like you. As for understanding the Bible, as I have written on this forum before, I am a literary scholar and will gladly match my knowledge of the Bible with anyone. I have done so many times all over the internet and easily defeated the right wingers who profane the Bible.

 

how is that conceivable when he created the individual and said each individual is loved by God and had the liberty to create his own relationship with God. This gave each individual liberty from earthly liberal God's like Caesar.

 

sadly true. What they really need is Republican capitalism and Republican Christianity

 

right!!! so instead depend on liberal Nazi men in govt for they will have a better nature!

Thomas Jefferson:
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the form of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question.'

 

do you mean educated them as Nazis or as Republican capitalists and Christians