We broke all records of cases, deaths, and hospitalizations today

OMG, shiver me timbers!!!

 

I asked many of the Brainwashed how many dead before it becomes a crisis.

9/11 was a crisis that turned the country upside down, and inside out. It was transformative.

Now we can get that many dead bodies every day, and it's nothing to you.

 

And it too was planned years before.

 

While your intent is corrupt, you have accidentally lurched into the general vicinity of the truth.

Way back in the 90s, the medical sciences pushed for better pandemic readiness. They didn't get much of what they wanted, and what they wanted was the resources needed to fight any disease. But there was a plan years ago.

We have allowed things like factory farming to become breeding grounds for epidemics and pandemics. That's political incompetence, scientists have been telling us for over a generation how to avoid most of this.

But, your intent is pathological.

 

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is perceived as pathological.

 

When one lie dies, you try another.

 

Here's one you won't answer: why did the US Attorney Berman not act on the piles of facts and evidence delivered to him by Lawyer's Committee for 911 Truth?

Let's see some of that beautiful rationalization.

 

How about you stick to the subject rather than go down another conspiracy theory rabbit hole?

 

I thought the subject was fraud?

 

Yes. And we heard for months the deniers saying that it was all a political ploy and on November 4th it would magically go away. What are those people saying, now? This virus has always had a way of defeating the nay-sayers. Remember when they were saying "it's nothing, it has killed only 10,000 Americans and the flu kills 30,000"? Then the virus defeated that. Then people started saying "I don't know anybody who died" - well, the way things are going, that is changing too. Or, they said "in my county there is just a handful of cases" (usually, fly-over counties...) and now it's rampant there, too. And so on, and so forth.

Every time someone said so, I said "just wait and see." And every time someone said "look at the dropping numbers; it's going away" I said, "it's not over yet; remember the 1918-1919 Spanish Flu; it came in three waves, and the third one was by far the worst one." In this case, I actually hate to be right, but I was right from the beginning.

Having had friends and colleagues who have died of this, and having had a brother who survived but then suffered a stroke, these days I have very little patience for the nay-sayers, and I've been placing people on Ignore by the dozens. Soon I'll be only talking to the rational people here...

There are STILL those who try to compare this to the flu... One of these days someone here was still saying "the fatality rate is smaller than the seasonal flu's" which is one of the most incredible falsehoods you can find.

Look at this: before this all started, the CDC had analyzed deaths from the seasonal flu over the last 31 seasons, and came up with the piece of information that at peak, the worst average daily death toll from the seasonal influenza is 64. Well, Covid-19 is currently posting 3,000 daily deaths (and this will probably stay this way and worse for weeks); in April and May it went several weeks with at least 1,400 daily deaths... And people still still insist that it's like the flu... I can't even start to comprehend this much denial.

Given how Covid-19 has left the flu far back in the rear mirror, now we're starting to see people comparing it to cardiovascular deaths and cancer deaths (eternally moving goal posts). Well, the way things are going, the virus may very well beat those too... although maybe not if there is efficient distribution of the vaccine and enough people accept it. Still, what people don't realize is that it's not INSTEAD of, but IN ADDITION TO. So, it doesn't matter if heart attacks kill more Americans... it matters that ADDITIONAL Americans die of this, and while we could never have avoided it completely, it could have been less bad if we had acted logically from the beginning, instead of stupidly.

Someone here one of these days was saying that Covid-19 has low lethality. I mean, how can someone be this misguided? Before it is over, this thing will have killed more people than the deaths suffered by American soldiers in World War II!!! So, what is the definition of "not very lethal" these people are using? Was WWII not very lethal???

Not to forget, the death toll is not all, like I've been saying over and over. A huge number of survivors emerge out of it with permanent organ damage. It's starting to be estimated at 20% of confirmed cases (Fauci recently said 20 to 30%; I was saying 10 to 20%; let's settle for 20% or 1 in 5). People are showing up with permanent lung fibrosis, permanent renal insufficiency, strokes and cognitive deficits from brain damage, and most concerning like I've been showing with the pioneer paper in the JAMA-Cardiology out of Frankfurt (by now there's been a handful of other papers), a large percentage of still silent, but weakened hearts, making some cardiologists fear that several years down the road from the acute phase of Covid-19, we'll see another pandemic: a pandemic of heart failures.

So people say "the majority of people suffer no consequence." Sure. That is true. And someone might call me a "glass half empty" kind of guy, but while it seems like 80% of people with confirmed cases suffer no consequence (therefore lower if we factor in the asymptomatic and never tested people), 1 in 5 who suffer consequences is still absolutely HUGE in terms of public health. Let's just look at the confirmed cases, today. We are at 14,775,308 as of now. 20% of this is almost 3 million people.

3 million Americans with permanent health conditions that will affect their quality of life, productivity, and life expectancy is HUGE. And until it's all said and done, it will be a lot more than 3 million. It will probably be around 6 million. The ECONOMIC impact from having to treat these people for decades and from having them being unproductive for the economy for the rest of their shortened lives, is MUCH WORSE than any short-term economic damage from a lockdown.

Like the wise president of Argentina said, "you can recover from an economic downturn but you can't recover from being dead." Well, his constituents didn't listen to him, and like here, pushed for the easing of the control measures, and while they were once smug because their rivals across the border in Brazil were doing much worse, now they are doing poorly too (and actually worse than Brazil in deaths by million of the population). They should have listened to their president. In the same region of the world, Uruguay which did not relinquish the control measures, is doing much better.

Deaths by million of the population:
USA 861
Brazil 825
Argentina 871
Uruguay 23

I mean, just looking at this STRIKING difference between three neighboring countries in the same region of the world, Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay, one of them being the only one that kept the control measures in place, demonstrates that while no country can bring it down to zero, control measures do work. Sure, it's a correlation and there are other factors (Uruguay being the most developed country of these three), but it is a pretty darn suggestive correlation.

So, sure, the Uruguayan economy will likely take a big short term hit... but over the next decades they will lavishly compensate by NOT having to treat the permanent medical conditions of a huge chunk of their population, and having their population unimpeded in terms of productivity and life expectancy, while Brazil and Argentina will be dealing with the aftermath of their short sighed views, for decades to come. And over here, we will, too.

 

Not according to the thread title.

 

I agree, but the issue is, is there political will to enforce it? So far, we had almost none.

Like in my state, the little lockdown we did have for 5 weeks, was a joke. The governor ordered it, but there was zero enforcement. None. Given that I'm a medical doctor and I have a badge showing it (and a medical license pocket card in my wallet) I was exempt from the order, so I was able to drive around and observe (I was driving only to and from work, and to and from essential activities like getting groceries and medications). I saw a reduction in traffic, sure, but a relatively small one, and NEVER saw any law enforcement officers questioning the people who were moving around. Nobody ever stopped me to ask me what my business was and if it was justified that I was out and about (and I never saw them stopping anybody else).

What I did see on TV, was sheriff departments saying that they wouldn't enforce the order (I live in a red state, which has a blue governor). So, the toothless order amounted to little more than a suggestion... subsequently, apps that track people's movements showed compliance with the governor's order of about 34% if I recall it correctly (and this number likely reflected mostly the fact that parents weren't driving kids to and from school because these were closed, and workers in some non-essential businesses that did close down were not going to and from work, rather than any other full obedience).

The governor of Michigan tried to be more forceful in enforcing her orders... and you saw the result: armed militias and demonstrations in front of her office, and a plot to kidnap her and likely execute her.

 

Yes, but the thread title is based upon a test that has been shown many times to be fraudulent, bogus. It was described by its inventor Kary Mullis as not meant for diagnostic purposes, but has been used exclusively for that purpose.

 

Hey, we know how many they consider to be a crisis: 4. As long as they happen in Benghazi.

 

The facts are screaming crisis.

Which leaves him in the land of ridiculous BS.

 

Paid propagandists are screaming crisis. Gullible and frightened readers buy into it, no questions asked. It's predictable behavior.

 

Sure, when the facts counter your narrative just call it fake news.
This has been the ploy for the last 4 years and now it just doesn't work any more.
You've cried wolf so much no one will take you seriously any more.

 

I don't expect to be taken seriously by those afflicted with cognitive dissonance. At 73 I've understood for many years that just as you can lead a horse to water but cannot make him drink, you can lead a man to knowledge but you cannot make him think. It's part of the human condition. Speaking the truth in a time of universal deception will always be perceived as radical or "pathological" as one poster has described it.

I have accepted for many years that many of my friends and acquaintances view the world around them through rose-colored glasses.

 

Where do I get money for screaming crisis?
I could do with the money since I work in the catering industry.

 

You are not a paid propagandist.

David Muir and Lester Holt are, and there are many more.

 

Have you ever considered that it is you that is suffering from cognitive dissonance?
Being a sceptic is admirable but by being a cynic and believing nothing you are just as blinkered as those who believe everything they read.
You are in fact a sheep for conspiracy theories.

 

How about Alex Jones, Rudy Giuliani that crazy Sidney Powell lady who sounds like a transvestite? Do you not consider them paid propagandists?
I mean, Rudy is paid 20k per day to lie for Trump.

 

What you have not considered, probably didn't know, was that I too was in stampede with the herd when this all began. I was scared silly for the better part of 2 months. During that time I worshipped the ground Anthony Fauci walked on.

I eventually came to my senses. Point is, I've walked several miles in your shoes. I saw the stealth virus around every corner and behind every tree. I was as frightened as you are.

I came to my senses, and that gives me perspective you do not have.

Plandemic is the word.

 

I read alot but keep in mind that it's "buyer beware".

I have opinions about those personalities you mention, but they are irrelevant. Negative views of Jones and Giuliani, neutral on Powell.

I try to avoid getting into personalities, but sometimes it cannot be avoided.

 

Frightened is not how I would describe myself.
Informed caution is how I look at it.
Plandemic is just conspiracy theory nonsense touted for partisan politics. You are sheeple.