I just read you the definition and how a fetus qualifies as a person as it is all those things I've listed. Notice that all you've been able to do is scream bullshit?
I don't buy ANY of that. You're simply trying to support your opinion. But, I'd point out that a fetus is not alive on its own. And, if the fetus isn't likely to survive to be an adult human it somehow becomes NOT a person? That's simply nutty. There are a number of diseases that prevent a child from reaching adulthood. They are still people, as they have been born. There are also disease that allow a child to live only a short time after childbirth. Suggesting they aren't persons is unsupportable. In fact, suggesting that an abortion that heads off a painful death soon after birth is somehow immoral is surely no more than a personal opinion at best. Neither of those make sense even in your convoluted world of personal opinion and self justification. This issue is too serious to simply make stuff up as you go along.
Uhh no. The two cells are merely part of the whole. So are you then telling me your idea of a person is to count out how many cells, you've developed? Lol Wanna try again? What is a person
"I don't buy any of that" Your personal opinion is incorrect. Is it human. Well...it's not a feline. It's not a plant....it's obviously human. Is it alive? Yeah. Dead things do not grow and develop into more advanced dead things. Lol. Will it become a human adult? Yes again! It's not going to become a chair or a frog. So you think it's not alive because it relies on the mother for nutrients? Well...you rely on nutrients. Are you not a person then? A disease? Lol. Genetic defects or a car accident? Do not stop one from being a person. Just prevents you from reaching your biological goal of adulthood. Like abortion! Wanna try again?
So twins are a single person? You are only betraying your sore lacking on this topic. BTW, the living cells in the dump I took are also persons that were aborted?
Twins are individuals connect by a feeding tube sharing the same womb...lol. do I need to go down a case by case with you?
No. After conception the mother is merely offering food and shelter with her body. Since we can replace that system in a lab with an artificial womb/incubator...you would say the baby is now part machine. Lol No sir. After conception the baby has all the blueprints and design given to become a full blown adult. It's already mapped out. All they need is nutrients and time
The only stupid in this threads are your questions as you can't seem to comprehend what a person is. You are made with over a billion cells. A billion cells working together to create you the person. You didn't start with a billion cells. You grew. Lol
My cells and how they work together is not in dispute. The single cell and then the two cells that can not work together is the issue and that you have to divert from that only demonstrates your lack of knowledge. Are the two cells one or two persons? They can be either but not both and certainly are not a person.
One cell dividing into two cells then 4, then 8...that's where we all started from, and yes they are working together in development towards human adulthood. That's not "8 people" and only an idiot would try and suggest such a thing. That first cell? The one created at conception? Ya that one cell has all the data and genetic code which makes the individual. That's why that first cell is a unique person. The cell division is just that cell growing INTO the human adult it's mapped out to become. There is no hole here in the logic. Just your understanding of the logic. lol.
Amen. Along with the failure modes and the myriad decisions made by women who are pregnant. The damaging affects of the assault on our whole ob gyn healthcare system is lethal.
We are talking about when life begins. Lol What is the failure rate of gestation? Mis carriages? 10-20 percent. /Shrug
You said: So then what did you mean by "motherhood?" Haha. Very funny. I'm not so sure it's exclusively liberal, although you could be just joking around. I think that it's a reasonable position to take as a conservative. I believe that the IDEAL is a GOOD mother and a GOOD father. But two GOOD mums or two GOOD dads would seem to be better than a kid languishing in the system for their entire life. I actually believe that it is inconsistent to be pro-life, and anti-same sex adoption, specifically in a world where there are not enough heterosexual people to adopt. As it happens, there is no shortage of heterosexual couples currently. And if there is anywhere in the word where they are losing out to same sex couples in the name of 'wokeness/political correctness, then that is nothing short of a disgrace. Society does not OWE same sex couples a kid. It's not about THEM! It's about the KID!
Her RELIGION? That sounds interesting. Please explain. Then why can't a woman murder her BORN child? SHE is the decision maker. NOT you! Nobody in the pro-life movement believes that rape should not be provided to save the woman's life. So I have no idea where you got that nonsense from. Well, I do make an exception for rape.
@Ritter spoke of "motherhood." Can you support the claim that there is a shortage of heterosexual couples for adoption? I believe that the IDEAL is a GOOD mother and a GOOD father. But two GOOD mums or two GOOD dads would seem to be better than a kid languishing in the system for their entire life. When did I say that I don't approve of them and that they are second class citizen?
