What Happens When We Stop Believing in God

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  1. bobobrazil

    bobobrazil Well-Known Member

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    one should not need a PHd to learn religious concepts they should be simple enough for a child to follow
     
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    The purpose of the op is not to debate whether there is a God or not, as I’m sure that’s been debated ad nauseam elsewhere, but what happens when enough silly people as in the image above start to change society. In the society they wish for, they were the first into the mass graves.
     
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    and the "silly" people you use as examples are people like hitler and stalin, but the mass of people were lutherens in germany and russian orthodox in russia, and i believe the churchs while not officially supported were supported by the people and never went away, i blame the leaders are better classified as psychopaths and that is a larger issue
     
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    People like Hitler and Stalin would never have got into power if the stupid in the image hadn’t believed them. They’re also the ones that did the killing.
     
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    And yet the history books are full of theist societies . . . probably most of them . . . who were more barbaric than this person.
     
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    Odd, Hitler chose the swastika as the national emblem on the flag

    Swastika - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Swastika

    It continues to be used as a symbol of divinity and spirituality in Indian religions, including Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. ... It generally takes the form of ...
    Western ^use ^of ^the... · ‎Swastika (Germanic Iron Age) · ‎Swastika curve
     
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  7. Daniel Light

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    Dude - you need to study how Christianity was spread in the New World ... most often by sword and kidnapping.
    You need to read about the Papal Wars, and how Christianity was spread in Northern Europe. You need to read about
    Savonarola and how many great works of art were destroyed by Christians at the end of the Renaissance.

    Christianity was spread as much by conquering armies as any other religion.
     
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    looks more like atheist to me
     
  9. Kokomojojo

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    I thought that was the way it was done in those days? SOP?
     
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    It's been my observation that there are no true atheists, since belief that there is no god is in fact a belief with no evidence resting on faith. No one enters the world doubting every single thing until they have proven it to themselves via the scientific method. Instead, the people who label themselves atheists reject traditional religions; for many different reasons. They all have various forms of flaws of course that can turn people away from them. So I get that. But traditional religions do provide a morality and code of conduct, which is necessary for societies to function. People don't seem to be able to make up their own little moralities on their own, they pick it up from the culture, and in the case of the West, that's Christian. Sorry Xtian haters
     
  11. Daniel Light

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    You need to study the First World War. That was not fought by atheists.
    You need to study the American Civil War. That was not fought by atheists.
    You need to study the Papal Wars. They were not fought by atheists.
    You need to study the wars of Napoleon, he and France were not atheists.
    You need to study the Wars between Germany, Italy, France and England in the 1200s, 1300s, 1400s, 1500s,
    1600s, 1700s, 1800s ... NOT fought by atheists.
    You need to study the Spanish-American Wars - not fought by atheists.
    You need to study The American Revolution. NOT fought by atheists.

    We can go on.
     
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    What Happens When We Stop Believing in God ?

    ~ In general societies do better and are more balanced when faith is commonplace. Pointing out countries where religious freedom is denied/prevented and the reason why is a good indication of the importance " Freedom of Religion " bestows.
    ~ Exactly correct. Good example of Communist social engineering.
    ~ Do you have an example ?
    ~ For many they already do ... :blankstare:'
     
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    Well I arrived here at post #25, so I am already too late. It does not take agnostics and atheists long to take care of this line of bullcrap. Its like ants pulling apart a butterfly. They each grab a wing, antenna and leg and pull! This Op will be toast before I even read the posts.
     
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  14. Daniel Light

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    Americans and the Christian Europe have been involved in SO MANY Wars over the Centuries - it's really hard to claim that religion has
    been a great contributor towards peace. Islam is no better. Buddhism might have the best claim to being peaceful. But in the end, there
    is no real evidence that religion or non-religion has made things much better.

    One of the bloodiest wars on record was the American Civil War - fought between Christians.

    If there is any group that might claim to be more peaceful, it would be the Agnostics - they don't care enough to go to war over religions - or lack there-of.
     
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    Obviously, this doesn't pertain to the USA.

    You can have any religion you want.

    Also, your analysis is seriously weak, as countries that have tried to ban religion have had other serious faults to start with.
     
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    Interesting, but not really my point. In fact, it had nothing to do with my point. Although I admit I never took you for an Islamophobe.
     
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    No, that's a ridiculous conclusion.

    Hitler was a strong charismatic leader who the whole country of Germany willingly put into leadership of their country.

    Suggesting that Germany was composed of stupid people is just plain SILLY. We know Germany is NOT composed of stupid people. In fact, they are a strong part of the EU economic engine that places the EU ahead of China, economically, plus they are a strong democracy with a commitment to civil rights.
     
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    it was started by atheists
    it was started by atheists

    WW2 was started by atheists
     
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    someone will just create a new God for people to believe in, Christianity was not the first and won't be the last

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    1/2 of czechslovakia voted for hitler and wanted to be annexed, he was so popular he became a major threat to western power and the gratest sin of sins, the 11th commandment, thou shalt not **** with the jewish banking cabal. He arrested rothschild who has been raining down hell and damnation ever since, oh wait he is one of the atheists that started ww2 LOL
     
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    simple

     
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    and the kkk chose the cross.... see a trend, Hitler was born and raised Christian
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    it is actually, but people have agendas
     
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    easy peasy, go down to holocaust thread, its already proven lol
     

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