What Happens When We Stop Believing in God

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  1. DennisTate

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    An influential segment of the population know that they know that they know that the people who believe in a Creator will tend to be UNWILLING to become like their boy.......
    Mr. Bill Gates and / or Dr. Tony Fauci and or Joe Biden or P. M. Justin Trudeau, (who read every script that influential people pass them and tell them to read.)


    These influential people do sincerely believe in some variation of Malthusian Catastrophe Theory and they are determined to implement
    much of what Mr. Bill Gates is advocating...... but they plan to go further...... down to five hundred million humans..... (Bill Gates does tell at least one lie in his lecture............ when he says two or three billion for the population of the earth...... he knew that he could not admit that his true goal was merely five hundred million for an ideal population for the earth). Perhaps he was being somewhat truthful though.... maybe because he is sixty six years of age and perhaps the plan of reducing the population of the world down to two or three billion was for during his lifetime...... and perhaps the full fledged plan of reducing the world population down to five hundred million...... may have been for after he passes on from four dimensional space time)!


    https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_innovating_to_zero/transcript


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    https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/m...age-of-food-sources-population-explosion.html

     
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    That may or may not be true, but I hardly think lack of (your) religion can be pointed to as a cause. Often they were totalitarian countries with socialistic/communistic economies that strangle innovation and punish success. That alone had more to do with their problems than the banning of religion. Who is going to bother inventing an i-phone if the IP and profits are just going to be stolen by the "powers that be"?

    Religion is a cancer upon society, indeed upon all of mankind, and the sooner we can be rid of it, the better off we'll be. Now, let me be clear that I not only believe our consciousness survives death, I know it for a fact because it happened to me, and I happen to remember what I did when I was clinically dead before they brought me back. And it is NOTHING at all like what any religion, save maybe some hybrid of Buddhism and Hinduism, teach.

    It's a "no judgement" zone, so all those queers that y'all despise so much, and all the people who wear mixed fabrics, or fail to keep your "sabbath" holy, or use your deity of choice's "name in vain", don't go to confession, or go to church at all, never got baptized, fail to believe in what is required, and on and on... they don't end up boiling in vats of boiling oil for the rest of eternity. Believe it or not, neither do the murderers, though I'm not advocating that you become one. I don't need some god giving me a list of rules to know what is right and not, and all those sex parties that my lovely bride and I enjoy so much fall on the side of "right". So does all the other stuff I listed.

    Only a single consciousness "exists", though not in any way that we would commonly use the word. And all of what we experience in our various "lives" are that consciousness dividing itself into little, tiny pieces of itself and playing games, trying to learn everything that is knowable. It hasn't done that yet, otherwise we wouldn't be here anymore, we'd be back in our natural state of existence having a big "mission accomplished" party. Probably with lots of booze, drugs, and sex!

    I know it pisses off xtians when I say that we are literally "god" (I prefer the term Source), but sometimes the truth hurts. "God" is not some separate entity that decided to create humanity just to have a bunch of folks sitting around worshiping and adoring him for not sending them to hell. If he were, there'd be a LOT more in hell than the ones doing all the adulation, that I can guarantee.
     
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    You don't have JACK on Bill Gates. You need to do a better job of listening.
     
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    Or could it be that you could not believe that he was truly quite serious???????????




    Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates


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    At least TedX deserves credit for offering a totally different theory on how to accomplish stabilization of the climate.



    https://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_fight_desertification_and_reverse_climate_change





    How to green the world's deserts and reverse climate change | Allan Savory

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    I disagree. You can be irrational and fanciful and even deluded a still not believe Gods exist.
     
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    You are STILL failing to listen.

    So, how about THIS:

    STATE WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING HIM OF.

    I'm tired of the absolutely idiotic innuendo.
     
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    I am accusing him of seriously planning to use vaccines to sterilize human beings and depopulate the earth gradually down from eight billion humans closer and closer to two to three billion humans........ exactly as he states in the video!!!!!!!!!!!


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...inst-bill-gates.591367/page-3#post-1073595112

    Should Israelis begin discussion of a Class Action Lawsuit against Bill Gates?



    Bill Gates is able to seriously embark on a goal like this partly due to his being rather extreme in his Atheism.
     
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    ~ I plan on becoming an Evangelist in my "retirement " years. My own congregation, no property tax, money donations.
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    That is the most preposterous bit of total BULL imaginable.

    There are NO vaccines certified in America or the world with known capacity to do that.

    You need to SERIOUSLY review who it is that you choose to believe.
     
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    Can I join? I'm Kris P. Bacon, son of Kris P. Bacon the elder and referenced in the Bible, but I can't find the quote now. Something along the lines of, "Come unto me all ye liberals who are weary and I will give that empty space between your ears a rest." We'll go 50/50 on the donations. :)
     
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    :worship: ~ The Church of Krispy is born ... :pray:
     
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    Ooooh, I'll have to do a thread on 'The Book of Things' soon then.
     
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    Provide the Biblical quote where God requires child sacrifice.
     
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    In my mind, there is a huge difference between a belief (or faith) in God and the adherence to religion. And I see no problem with a lack of faith in the latter. As for the faith in God, it is a very personal choice and I don't think that a lack of it makes for a 'lesser' person.
     
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    I did. You claimed it didn’t take religion to realize slavery was bad. That is historically wrong. Slavery was accepted as normal in human society - western, eastern, African- until very recently.

    Paul in the letter to Philemon called for an end to slavery.

    In the USA Christianity led the way in civil rights. All the leaders such as Reverend Martin Luther King and Reverend Ralph David Abernathy led the way.
     
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    As usual the US changed the definition by 'rebranding the meaning' of the word slavery, SOP in law, that is how they are taking over religion. Freedom of and to exercise 'your' religion it dead! Unless it matches 'their' (allegedly secular) 'religion'. Only 'their' preferred words and definitions are functional/usable in 'their' commercially based courts and it has to be their court design to be recognized. lol ...and you cant get anything heard unless you submit to their jurisdiction! trapped.

    "They gotcha by your balls!" ~George Carlin

    if taken to court, has be in the context of 'servitude' to make a case. We here in the US are all slaves by the definitions used during the bill of rights era. (National debt), completely determined and completely out of our control, and we pay for our parents debts to name a few top contenders for the definition of slavery as it was back then.

    Because secular religion is not yet fully adjudicated atheists are fighting hard to pretend their religion is not religion, and combine that people that believe in a deity fall into their trap since they want to be special and claim religion belongs solely to them. Think tanks are a wonderful thing! lol
     
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    Off the top of my head, Abraham and Isaac, Jeptha. There's probably more.
     
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    Slavery didn't originate with Christianity, nor did Christianity stop it. Yes, most abolitionists were religious, and so were most slavers, because most people were. The bible itself explicitly allows for slavery also. And the mindset of blind obedience to God, even if he abuses you (Job) is itself a very slave like mindset.

    Also, it could be argued that abolition of slavery, the civil rights movement, etc took off as religiousity was in decline. We even have equal rights for homosexuals now.

    I do think the Bible was a step forward morally speaking over what came before in the culture of its time, but then being codified into religion it held back further progress for centuries.

    Getting back on topic, I think breaking away from religious mindset, groupthink and authoritarianism are good and so for that I smile on the fall of organized religion. But I also fear what may replace it. It endured for centuries, without causing total societal collapse, and there's something to be said for that.

    The woke anti-liberal segment of the left is becoming just as authoritarian and religious and bigoted as the fundamentalist Christians were decades ago, and unlike in Christianity there is no grace or redemption by repentance. We need to be extra vigilant.
     
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    The American Civil War was a battle of Christians supporting slavery vs. Christians wanting to abolish slavery.
    Of course, in most other civilized countries, slavery was ended by vote or proclamation WITHOUT the major blood-shed.
     
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    The Indian Emperor (and Buddhist) Ashoka the Great, BANNED slavery about 250 years BEFORE Christ.
     
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    I think L. Run Hubbard beat you to that.
     
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    Actually, that makes more philosophical logic than what they believe in.
     
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    I still see no reason to believe it to be true, but I find it a lot less problematic.
     
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    :omg: ~ More "stuff " about this theory ... :below:

    https://connecticutcentinal.com/new...-to-use-vaccines-to-reduce-global-population/
     
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