What if Trump loses in November?

So Trump is going to compare Biden to himself based on lies? And you actually believe that's a winning strategy for Trump?

Good luck with that!

 

But bitching and moaning and virtue signaling is about the only thing the left does any more even when they win they bitch and moan and whine.

 

the supreme court decision was the precipitating issue

 

you apparently don't understand a finding of guilt in a criminal case versus a finding of liability in a civil suit. We who are attorneys understand that

 

Reality is that she has flip-flopped about Trump again and again for political expediency. You already admitted this yourself. That is going to hunt her all her political life. I don't think it will RUIN her political career, the way it will ruin others like DeSantis or Lindsey Graham... but it will be used against her. The advantage for her is that Lindsey Graham will not be able to use it when she runs for his seat. Because he's even worse. But her Democratic opponent will. Or maybe some other Republican, when she's up for reelection. And maybe (just maybe) it will one day make her Senate race a bit tighter than it would normally need to be in South Carolina. Or even a Republican challenger, when she's up for reelection.

 

She has said from the beginning that he was the right man for 2016 and she was proud to serve in his administration, but "chaos follows him" and it's time to look forward. Perfect.

 

Attorney or not, I'm afraid YOU'RE the one demonstrating not to know the difference. Or, even worse... You're demonstrating not to know the elements of proof that constitute defamation.

I'm sure you're a competent attorney and that your statement was made out of desperation because you know you support a criminal for President. But you should be more careful. Trump is not worth your reputation.

 

What if Biden loses in November?

 

She has said waaaaay more than that. But she's the topic of this thread.

 

She has returned fire after being attacked, but she has left intact the bridge over which Trump's supporters can move to join her after she is the nominee.

 

The following believe, without fact, that he lost 2020. And we believe he is a danger to democracy. Each side can disbelieve the other or we can move on.

 

Open a thread and find out. All I would have to say is that Trump now knows what mistakes he made the last time he tried to perpetuate himself in power, and it's unlikely he'll make them again. So our experiment in forming a Republic ("...if you can keep it", said Dr Franklin) experiment will either be over. Or damaged in a way that it will be very difficult to recover.

 

If Trump is convicted of a crime before the Republican convention which begins on July 15th, they can still try to find somebody else. But, as long as Democrats keep a lid on all their radical, 'woke' idiocy while projecting an image of something like "normalcy", they'll have relatively smooth sailing right through the election, whether Trump runs or not. Make book on this: Trump will not be elected as President of the United States again -- period!

As the reality of the U. S. economy continues to impoverish more and more in the middle and lower-classes, a majority of voters will be in desperate search for 'free stuff' -- and for the last 90 years the home of 'free stuff' is the DemocratIC Party!

. The "Triumvirate" of the Welfare State.

 

Oh! You still think she could beat Trump. You can count that out.

Or are you saying that maybe Trump will be imprisoned and she'll step in his place? Highly unlikely but not impossible, I guess. Even when Trump is convicted, he's unlikely to be imprisoned until after the elections. And he won't be convicted before the South Carolina primary. Which is as far as Nikki is likely to go.

Anyway... this thread is not about Nikki. So I'll just leave it at that.

 

She will beat him one way or the other, and her donors are committed through Super Tuesday.

 

This thread is just fine. What's the matter, don't you like counter arguments? Do you only want to start threads where other lefties pat you on the back and give you likes? What's the point of being on a debate forum if you refuse to accept counter arguments? By the way, Trump is now ahead in every single swing state (many with big leads) and most every professional betting organization now puts Trump at far better odds to win than Biden.

Arizona: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 43, Biden 35, Kennedy 10, West 1, Stein 1
Trump+8
Georgia: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 44, Biden 37, Kennedy 8, West 1, Stein 1
Trump+7
Michigan: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 43, Biden 37, Kennedy 8, West 1, Stein 1
Trump+6
Nevada: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 43, Biden 31, Kennedy 12, Stein 2, West 1
Trump+12
North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 45, Biden 32, Kennedy 9, West 1, Stein 1
Trump+13
Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 43, Biden 40, Kennedy 7, Stein 1, West 1
Trump+3
Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein Bloomberg/MrnConsult
Trump 43, Biden 35, Kennedy 10, Stein 2, West 0
Trump+8

https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls#!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting-odds/2024/president/

 

The liberals hate Trump, and will destroy our democracy and all it's stood for, for over 250 years if that's what it takes to stop Trump.
The conservatives hate Biden and swear that if this election isn't fair they will do ............ something.

Neither Trump or Biden are going to take care of our business.
Trump and Biden are so despised by half of America that if elected they will not be able to do much. The key will be who holds Congress.

Or we can find a third candidate, one with the ability and will to take care of our business, who comes with little or no baggage, and who at least has a chance of working with Congress, no matter who has control of it.

That, in my opinion, is Nikki Haley.

 

I hate to dispute the actual value and meaning of those polls, but the reality is that the Democrats could run a two-headed dog for president and they'd still win! What no one is taking fully into account is the masterful skill with which Democrats control the dynamics of the Welfare State!

And in 2024, after decades of the after-effects of Democrat social-architects like Frankie Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Barack Obama, more Americans are now dependent on one form of government handout, 'subsidy', or 'service' than ever before. And in November, they will vote accordingly! Sad but true -- in 2024, the United States will realize it has become a "Beggars Banquet"....

 

Actually, it is a testament to democracy. Just because you are told by ABC et al to hate Trump, does not mean that others do.

As to the question about what happens if he loses? First, the votes have already been counted and Biden got 375 million votes. DC will never again permit anyone but one of their own to become POTUS.

What will happen to the country? It will be here the next day, and the day after that, and the day after that.............

You need to take a breath

 

I see no reason why they would need to find somebody else even if he's convicted. It would be a catastrophe for the party. An even WORSE catastrophe than nominating Trump. I wouldn't discard a 50 state win for democrats, and a super majority the likes of which we can't even imagine; if republicans did that.

The rest of your points are off-topic here. But to briefly respond...

"Woke" is a winning issue for democrats, and a losing one for Republicans. Not sure what you have been led to believe the term means, but it's simply defense of equal rights for all. We are discussing that here...
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-the-right-already-losing-the-war-on-woke.613337/

And the Economy is going to be the BEST talking point for Democrats. Watch Republicans walk away from that topic as November approaches. Here is the appropriate thread for that.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/what-would-a-great-economy-look-like.616120/

 

your posts continue to demonstrate it is you who are confused. Trump has never been convicted (yet) of a criminal offense. that you continually say otherwise merely demonstrates that Trump hate clouds honesty

 

No it's not. Sorry. Already had threads I opened deleted because MAGAs derailed them.

Besides, you keep changing topics. Now it looks like you want to discuss polls. Which, at this point in the race, are meaningless. The proper thread for that is this one.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/here-is-my-prediction-for-november.616060/

You can comment there, or I'll be happy to move your response there, if you don't know how to do it.

 

Which doesn't change the fact that he's guilty.

 

I don't need anybody to tell me to hate a criminal sexual abuser who separated children from their families, who attempted to destroy our democracy and who used the presidency for profit... Any moral person would. You are correct in that others, especially those without morals, don't have to hate this criminal. But people with moral standards don't need to be told. They'll hate him for what they SEE him do!

 

I wasn't talking about Trump in my response. I was talking about YOUR claim that what I said was defamation. I expect you won't say that nonsense again.

As for Trump, convicted or not, he's a sexual abuser. A criminal becomes a criminal when they commit the crime. The requirement to prove it in a court of law is simply so they can be sent to prison (or whatever penalty). But he became a criminal the second he committed his first crime.