What if Zimmermann Walks?

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    and all that grand speculation and "feelings" you have amount to precisely ZERO in a court of material fact required to convict.

    if Z walks it proves that americans have the right to own, bear, and pull the trigger.
     
  2. SkyStryker

    SkyStryker Banned

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    We don't need to know what he was thinking. We know by his own words he had already designated T as a criminal being responsible for crime in his neighborhood. You're just like any other Z supporter who pretended to be "impartial" when first posting on the subject. I just hope you learn from this so in the future you won't make such an embarrassing mistake.
     
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    Silly remarks.. you don't have any rights to shoot others... and neither does GZ.
     
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    You value life so much you said absolutely nothing about any of the numerous posts that have danced on T's grave. Hell, you even dishonestly try to exploit Dee's testimony to try and justify T being responsible for being murdered by a power tripping freak who couldn't even hold a job due to abusing coworkers and customers.

    It's way way way too late for you to claim the high road. You didn't even have the integrity to apologize for falsely calling people liars for pointing out the fact Serino filed an affidavit to charge Z with Manslaughter.
     
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    SkyStryker Banned

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    We both know Z's conviction will be used to say people want to take away the 2nd Amendment. The irony is the same gun nuts are the groups that claim guns save lives. Apparently, T was going to choke Z to death one skittle at a time.
     
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    For the sake of black business owners, pray that Zimmerman doesn't.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now look who is lying. You are so desperate to have Zimmerman hanged, you have gotten silly.
     
  8. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    This is a silly statement. Americans have always had the right of self-defense and the right to keep and bear arms. What Americans don't have is a Right to vigilantism where they arm themselves and then go out and provoke a situation where they can shoot someone and call it self-defense.

    Perhaps too many Americans watch too many Westerns where the bad guy threatens to kill someone and they think that who draws first makes a difference. If the bad guy threatens someone then it doesn't matter who draws first. If someone threatens my life I'm not going to wait for them to draw first. Zimmerman threatened Martin by pursuing him and Martin was correct in physically confronting Zimmerman when Zimmerman approached close enough to present an immediate threat to Martin's personal safety.
     
  9. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your idea of civilized behavior. Punch first and ask questions later.
     
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    It will falsely be claimed to have been the impetus for numerous riots but primarily the random targetting of innocent whites by angry blacks across the nation..while ignoring the fact that Zimmerman is partly hispanic. The Obama administration will be criminally silent on the matter after initially sticking his nose in it.

    Zimmerman is as white as Obama is.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    If someone threatens me then they are commiting assault under the law and I have the Right of Self-Defense. This was the foundation for the Florida "stand your grpund" law that, at least on the surface, I agree with. Martin was threatened by Zimmerman when Zimmerman pursued him to the point where a physical confrontation became possible and Martin had the Right of Self-Defense as Zimmerman's actions constituted "aggravated assault" (Zimmerman was in possession of a deadly weapon). That is what the prosecution is expected to show with evidence and testimony.

    I will point out again that with the Right to Bear Arms also comes the Responsibility related to it. A person cannot feel "empowered" by carrying a firearm to provoke a situation where they might have to use it. The Right to Bear Arms is to protect oneself from the unwarranted aggression by others and if a person is the aggressor they are being irresponsible related to their Right to Bear Arms. It's virtually identical to the Right of Freedom of Speech which does not allow a person to yell "FIRE" in an auditorium. The Right ends when the person becomes irresponsible in their actions.
     
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    What was the lie? Did you apologize for calling myself and others liars for pointing out Serino wanted to charge Z? Do you have a single post that criticizes any of the numerous comments that are dancing on T's grave?
     
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    What threat or act of "violence" did Zimmerman commit? Evidence please.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make stuff up all the time then lie about what I have done. You are a liar par excellence.
     
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    I asked you what was the lie and all you can come up with is to accuse me of being a liar? Wow. I guess it is possible you suffered some head injury and amnesia is the cause of you forgetting you called myself and many others liars for pointing out Serino wanted to charge Z.
     
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    No need to show you what you just wrote, it is on the same page. You lie.
     
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    Yet you can't quote the lie. Nobody is surprised.
     
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    Do you know how to read? Your lies are on this page.
     
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    It is not an accident you defend Z exactly like this. Make claims you can't support then accuse others of lying to conceal an inability to defend your position.
     
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    Nope, I'm just being fair to Zimmerman which you don't like. You have already found Z guilty and can't look at anything objectively. Keep an open mind and consider Z may be innocent until proven guilty when all the evidence comes out. As far as Z is concerned so far I don't see him as guilty because all of the evidence isn't out and what is out is very flimsy. I for one wonder about the emails he sent to the SPD. I don't know what is in them yet I just find the fact he sent them as odd. So I'm not 100% sure Z is guilty or innocent either. That's because I believe in innocence until found guilty. It is much easier to see things as they are and go where the evidence leads. Twisting everything to fit what you believe must be exhausting.
     
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    You are the one accusing people of lying without providing any proof. You just don't like being treated like you treat others. Grow up.
     
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    Well the last thing a lawyer wants from a client is for the client to be sending emails, calling Hannity, setting up websites. I am sure you know why.
     
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    Of that, I have no doubt.
     
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    Did you know that Zim's Paypal account is growing by $1000 a day?
     
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    Good for him and his lawyer. Plenty of people would like to see him get a fair trial no matter how it turns out.
     
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