What is single payer?

No the reason is we are the richest country in the world and give a MASSIVE amount of money to medical research. MASSIVE

 

Homelessness is in large part due to the fact that we dont have state run asylums anymore. The mentally ill are completely ignored in this country. I would totally be ok with some of my taxes going to fixing that.

 

You still dont get it.

Yes. Capitalism breeds innovation. You are absolutely correct. Financial incentive spurrs determined solutions. Competition causes lower manufacturing costs. Bureaucracy interferes with development.

Welcome to the conservative movement. Your bumper stickers will arrive shortly.

 

' doesn't make much sense, does it?

That could get pretty dicey.

Now that's impressive, seriously.

 

I would have to print for you to read all of Bill's Arguments.

Is that what you really expect?

This man knows Bill as I know Bill

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Nope it comes from the federal government. You will learn.....eventually

 

Yes. Your Olympic and Nobel thing works if you are interested in per capita success.

And, if you add up the populations of the countries in that list you have to admit they are doing well.

And, why the heck wouldn't they be?

 

I agree. I was just pointing to what seems to be the reason for the recent surge.

We hear that Salt Lake noticed that many homeless can make rent. They just can't make the initial outlay to move in. So, the city is helping with that as well as the standard tent city thing, etc.

 

I give this gift to any person that seriously thinks they can do it on their own and that the penalty of government exceeds any alleged benefit.

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Let's chat about no government.

 

You're looking at the problem incorrectly, which is why you are blind to the cure. You don't solve homelessness, but rather starve the homeless. I found a job just by being hungry. The guy put me to work painting a house, and 8 hours later, I was counting out 4 twenty dollar bills and heading to the nearest steak house. another 50 bucks and I had a hotel room for the night, and still had 20 bucks.

That's why I'm a damn conservative! I know it can be done. I went from that 10 dollar an hour job to going to university, and eventually... well, I own my own house and have two kids who I put through university to where they graduated without owing a dime to anybody.

At the time, it seemed like an impossibility, but if you keep putting one foot in front of the other, then you can do it.

So when you guys come up with your ideas that if only people are given stuff, then they won't need stuff, I have to push back. You're not doing it.

Now as to your question about cities that have defeated homeless, I really don't care to look for examples. I just knew that seattle's idea wouldn't work. You don't give people stuff, but rather give them the ability to earn it.

Asking me for examples of how my idea works requires looking at individual cases of people working hard. Not some government program that gives people stuff. It MUST come from the individual.

 

This is a fatal flaw of the Democrats and how they see the USA.

Take a homeless problem in Salt Lake City.

Frankly why do you wait for Government? Is there a good reason why you care, but do nothing more than wait on Government?

Who comes up with the upfront cash?

Are they mentally ill, those street residents? Do you rent a home to the mentally ill? Do you pay a landlord and make the mentally ill his problem?

When you are told to pay higher taxes, if you got told to murder, would you also do that?

When they execute that convict, would you push the plunger to inject death?

 

This shows the flaws of Democrats by just your replies to one or more of them.

A crippling word is entitlement. Another such word is welfare. Nothing like wanting to eat spurs those to find a job. If that works, they eat. When that works, they go to college. When that works, they tell posters why they are conservatives who voted for Trump.

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What saddens me is not that you post on this forum, but that you touch daily lives of people who might fall for what you are telling them.

 

What saddens me is that you actually believe what you post. You are old enough to know better

 

Not everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. So the choice is do we let them suffer or do something about it. Housing First. It works

 

I disagree. Everybody can do it.

well okay, there are some that are so far gone that they can't, but that decision as to who is capable and who is not is no longer up to liberals. I've seen who you guys think deserve a helping hand up, and you messed up by being a bit too liberal with my taxes.

You just messed up, is all. Sorry, but you were far too liberal so now you have to sit down and be quiet. Maybe next time you get the opportunity to distinguish between those that really can't tie their own shoelaces and those that can, you won't make the same mistake.

but now, just sit down and shut up.

 

I was 42 when I lost interest in believing what you tell people. That was 36 years ago.

 

Government has nothing it can give us without taking from some of us.
I have no problem with unemployment benefits as it has a funding mechanism, and requirements which need be met as well as limits to the duration.
The Federal government provides funding to States based upon the number of persons needing assistance, so it benefits States to not let that number diminish greatly, if at all. Not to mention that State government employees jobs depends on their case loads keeping them employed.
In my opinion all spending directly on the population within each State should be funded by that States taxes alone.

 

You have no clue what you are talking about and I assure you I know far more about this problem than you ever will. You are just out of your league

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You are a lost cause. Good luck with what little life you have left

 

I doubt, seriously you are the idiot you make out to be..and you are a huge waste of time.

There is a new tool for that, it's called wikipedia and it explains how universal medical care works and how "every Canadian" can"afford it"

 

I heard many argue what you argue for.

I mean some true experts. They could spin out text by the paragraphs.

You, compared to them are a lightweight.

Think over your good luck to me. You assume you will walk this earth post my passing. I happen to enjoy wonderful health. I stay in touch with one man who turned 97 recently and a woman of 93 whose family surrounds her with deep love.

I do not disrespect either of those two. i do my best to respect others despite their youth.

 

Good for you! It appears you were young and on your own, capable of both physical labor and college. That is not an accurate representation of the homeless community.

And, I did NOT ask you for examples. Examples aren't policy.

And, you have no idea what I do, nor do you have a clue about homelessness in the USA, obviously.

 

That's what I thought - you're an anarchist.

Tough luck for you, bud. There is NO room for anarchy in the US.

 

You don't wish to take charge of your life and act responsibly to others?

When humans love government above neighbors, they get what they deserve, a non caring government.

 

lol!

Being interested in civilization IS an expression of concern and responsibility for others. Anarchy is the ultimate expression of not caring for others.

But, I didn't notice where you limited your hate for government to "non caring" government.

Plus, it seems like you are interested in government caring LESS not more.

Your statement of "take charge of your life and act responsibly to others" is important for all - it is not a mutually exclusive alternative to government.