What major city would you refuse to live in?

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What major city would you refuse to live in

  1. New York

    9 vote(s)
    23.1%
  2. Dallas

    7 vote(s)
    17.9%
  3. Salt Lake City

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  4. Seattle

    3 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. Miami

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  6. St. Louis

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  7. Memphis

    1 vote(s)
    2.6%
  8. Newark

    4 vote(s)
    10.3%
  9. Atlanta

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Chicago

    4 vote(s)
    10.3%
  11. Portland

    8 vote(s)
    20.5%
  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    Crime is not as bad in NYC as it is in many other places. Its not even in Top-20. Cost of living is high, but so are incomes.

    NYC size places are not my cup of team, but I picked Dallas as #1 place I'd never live in. I have been there many times, and I feel like it suffocates me. Its one massive suburb with nothing around it.

    Its interesting people make life decisions based purely on partisan politics, as opposed to opportunity and advancement of career. Sure, big cities in US are ran by Dems, and they generate 80% of US economic output. NYC alone generates more than the entire nation of Canada.
     
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    World have allowed for multiple choice. Hard call between Seattle and Portland. New York and Chicago would have been on there too. If also ad Philadelphia and Baltimore.
     
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    More and more it's just as ghost town.
     
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    In Texas, I don't know which would be worse -- Houston, or Dallas. I used to go to the Dallas regional headquarters for the Prime Contractor I worked. I flew into DFW about every two months for two years, and I never liked it, or Dallas. The water out-of-the-tap is awful, the weather is generally either too hot or too cold, and the traffic is often an agony... but the people, the Mexican food, and, of course, the barbeque, were wonderful. I parted company with that particular corporation at the point that they told me I must (MUST) relocate to Dallas, or to Washington D. C., and I wanted no part of either of those places!

    Austin (where I went to the Univ. of Texas) used to be 'drop-dead gorgeous', and, believe it or not -- it was one of the least expensive cities in the country to live in. That was LONG ago... now it's a hyperliberal mecca, severely taxed, crowded, and 'nanny-stated' to death by radical Democrats who run everything there. Where you want to live in Texas is just about anywhere up in what they call "the Hill Country". I was there again a couple of months ago, and it's still just delightful, although getting too overwhelmed with retiree 'money' from the big cities.... Property prices in Kerrville and Fredericksburg are 'through the roof'.

    After you get to be retired, you look at cities in a remarkably different way, once you don't have to do the rat-race grind all the time. All in all, I still like my location in the Denver-Colorado Springs 'corridor' best overall... but, we're rapidly running out of water resources, and the land developers and realtors keep on using their muscle (and money) to "grow, grow, grow"... like a kind of cancer. That, in combination with a relentless drought that, so far, has lasted at least twenty years, will probably be our doom. They say that this drought is shaping up to be another one of those 'hundred-year' monsters that anthropologists tell us forced the Indians to leave the Mesa Verde area about a thousand years ago.
     
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    Cities are what they are, - places to work and earn a living. I never liked big cities, and even SE Florida is a rat race with 7 million people in a small area. European cities are different and more enjoyable.
     
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    Well, European cities are certainly 'different' -- and -- many of them have really good public transportation! But, it can be a real nightmare to drive a car over there. Ever tried to find a parking place in Munich? And even when Germans do find parking places, a lot of the time they park their cars with half the car draped up on part of the adjoining sidewalk!

    But the German systems for getting around big cities are really amazing. I used to be able to get from my place on Grafenwerthstraße in Cologne over to the Hauptbahnhof (central train station), next to the cathedral, in no time! I can only imagine the pure hell you'd have to go through to drive a car down there, and to actually park the thing....
     
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    Where are Los Angeles and San Francisco on this list?

    You need to have more than one choice. Portland has become unlivable because the homelessness and crime. Chicago is a shooting gallery.

    Wokeness, which supports criminal activity, makes many large cities undesirable.
     
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    I love the fact that over 2-3rds of most people in America wouldn't want to live in bigger cities, or at least in the corrupt liberal ones. lol.

    So maybe the democrat utopia of California, isn't what most Americans want. Maybe democrat voters should paid attention to that. and respect it.
     
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    San Francisco?
    Los Angeles?
     
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    A LOT of what's wrong with all our big cities is that ever since "Messiah" Obama became president, we've been throwing open the borders to wave after wave of third-world peasant trash and criminals. It kicked into high gear under Obama in 2014... then took a 'breather' under Trump. Now, under Geriatric Joe, it's 'full speed ahead', with no end in sight.

    [​IMG]. "Hey, we've already got those 'Latino' votes... next, I'm going to AFRICA!"
     
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    Sure ... if those are what you consider culture. Generally speaking those are not cultural artifacts. Cultural artifacts are things like language, religion, moral codes, behaviour, etc.

    In which case cities have no more culture than anywhere else. A small town could technically have more culture than a city.
     
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    I chose Miami just because it's flat and hot.

    I'm a mountains/cold girl, so would never work.
     
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    Wish I could vote “all”
     
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    That would take out all cities. None of the list is in the mountains
     
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    I agree with you on Dallas...just never ending claustrophobia...never ending suburbs. You really don't know when Dallas ends and begins...
     
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    They don't have to be IN mountains, they just need to be not flat. I can't do flatlands unless it's desert (because deserts are so exoticly beautiful that it sorta cancels the flatness).

    There's something about a featureless landscape that just does my head in. It's why I can't do oceans, either. That 'nothing to see' feeling leaves me very uncomfortable.
     
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    Like some of the threads here. Like this thread. WHO STARTED IT????
     
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    I'm not certain, but I think you are in Australia? And you abhor flat terrain? I know not ALL of Australia is flat, but a great deal of it is, and, of course, it's surrounded by oceans, which you don't care for. Well, come on over to Colorado here in the States. My living room is more than 1,920 meters above sea level... and to the west of me, it just goes up from there. I'll bet you'd like it here, and there's always room for more Australians! Cheers!
     
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    Hi, crank.

    Thank you for reading my comment and posting a response.

    Your post, your definitions.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    Yeah, it's counterintuitive ain't it! The middle of Australia is very flat, it's true. But almost all our 'edges' are hilly or mountainous. And our edges a hundreds of km's wide, not just the very coastal fringe. In fact most of our capital cities/suburbs are quite hilly (Melbourne being the exception). EG:

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    So steep that stairs are needed for sidewalks. That's not particularly unusual in our cities, despite our flat centre!
     
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    Inner city areas are similar. This area, for example, is so steep that you almost have to walk sideways on some streets. Hard to see the incline in this image, but trust me .. I've walked these hills many times!

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    I might have mentioned it before but CO is my 2nd favorite State in US. Its a nature's playground and the people there love to do stuff outdoors.
     
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    When I was in my teens and twenties, I dreamed of living in New York City. I actually got to do it for a short time in 1980. It was great, but it was also wicked expensive and the taxes were high. Crime was an issue, especially in the ‘70s, but if you kept your head up, and stayed out of the bad areas at the right times, you chances of not becoming a victim were decent.

    Now, with cashless bail and feckless politicians, who actually support criminals, it’s much different. With the influx of illegal aliens, it’s going to get worse. Those people will get ticked off when they learn that the U.S. does not have streets that are paved with gold and that there is a big gap between rich and poor, just like South America.

    My niece lives in NYC, and would love for us to visit. No thanks. With brazen criminals robbing people in the street and hitting pedestrians with baseball bats, I’ll stay in Florida. My niece lives a glamorous life, and gets on TV now and then, the latest with Drew Barrymore, but I’ll pass.
     
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    Hi, newly registered JohnHamilton, and welcome to the forum.

    Perception can be corrected by statistics. A search of the crime statistics for New York City spanning several decades should serve. Here's a starting place: Crime Stats - Historical - NYPD (nyc.gov)

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    I’m sure the books have been cooked. Record numbers of NYPD members are leaving the force. The subways, which are the cheapest and effective ways to get around the city are not safe. And yes, I used to take the subway from mid town to lower Manhattan in 1980. It was not always a picnic then; it’s much worse now.

    My niece loves the city, and willing to put up with the crap. She’s also got millions of dollars backing her, which keeps her above the fray.

    I got mugged in Newark, NJ when I was going to graduate school at Rutgers. NYC is soon going to be like Newark and East Orange. No thank you.
     
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