What Russia's deadliest nuclear sub could do to the US

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    But it is a truth of life. Bitter truth. But it is a fact.
     
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    I know. They believe Joan Wayne is a real hero but he was only an actor who never was never in the military one day in his life.
     
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    I tell you what is written in the encyclopedia. It is a fact. I am not a supporter of hypocrisy like you. Therefore, I call a savage a savage, a criminal a criminal. But you prefer hypocrisy.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Hypocrisy like claiming that the Baltics are Russian because Russia bought them while also claiming Alaska is Russian even though America bought it?
     
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    So are murder and child rape. That doesn't mean we shrug our shoulders and say, "Oh well, can't be helped."
     
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    You must be kidding, right?
    First, in a nuclear war the American oligarchs will lose everything.
    Second, why do you need Alaska for? It's cold, it's rocky (earthquakes) and the gold is already gone.
    Third, Russia can hardly manage the current territory now. Diminishing population. Adding more territory just for the sake of it is not very smart.
     
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    Your copter is missing a rotor. It was fake news supported by the HBIWH (Home Boy In the Whine House). You know it and i know it. And For your information, me and my "No NATO" is partly responsible for my country remaining outside of NATO ... so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
     
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    Is it too simple to check my link?

    "Basically"? Well, if theirs' isn't exact copies then they might have built carriers. I am not interested in Chinese ships at the moment.

    The only reason it is called a cruiser is because it is a cruiser. I think it was smart of them to build such a cruiser if the Montreax Agreement is a stumbling block. Go Russia!
     
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    It is no more a cruiser than the new Japanese carriers are “destroyers”.

    It is an aircraft carrier. They call it a cruiser for political purposes.
     
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    You still didn't look at my link. It is a cruiser. One little click on my link will prove it.

    Hey man, Americans call suicide bombers "cowards" and Iraki hand grenades "WMD's" ..... for political purposes.
     
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    Thats more likely to happen....sooner than any Nato skirmish.;).
     
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    It is not a cruiser. It carries, launches, and recovers fixed wing combat aircraft. That is the definition of an aircraft carrier.

    They call it a cruiser for political purposes. The Montreax Agreement bans aircraft carriers from passing through the Bosphorus, so they call it a “cruiser” to get around that.

    It’s no different than the Japanese “helicopter destroyers”. They are light carriers, but their Constitution bans them from operating carriers, so they euphemistically call them “helicopter destroyers” to get around it.

    Same with the British Invicible class. The British Parliament wouldn’t approve funds for new carriers, so the British Navy called them “Through-Deck Cruisers” for political reasons to secure funds, but they were still aircraft carriers.

    BTW, I’d love to see your source for your claim that Americans called Iraqi hand grenades “WMDs”.
     
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    Excerpts from the link I provided are from Military Today:

    :!: "Heavy aviation cruiser"

    :!: " .....
    could never be considered true aircraft carriers".

    Go to my link > > > click on it. :nerd:
    :rip: There were no WMD's in Irak. That is a fact, isn't it.
     
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    Yes. That is what the Russians claim. Literally everyone else in the world know it’s an aircraft carrier.

    The Russians claim it is a cruiser for political purposes.

    http://www.military-today.com/navy/kuznetsov_class.htm

    Do you notice how military today repeatedly calls it a carrier?
     
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    A big war huh? The one that Russia will not want to wage that war.
     
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    apparently not to you.
     
  18. Thingamabob

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    Some time ago the American hamburger chain MacDonalds tried to sue the owner of a hamburger restaurant in Scotland because he used his surname in the name of the restaurant, MacDonald. I had a fake Rolex wristwatch some years ago. The battery needed changing one day so I left it with a watch repair shop in town. When I returned to pick it up and pay the bill it was clearly written up as a Rolex. The point is that it is what the maker says it is and now that you've read the link I provided you know that it states very clearly, "Heavy aviation cruiser"

    I repeat: The Americans call Iraki hand grenades WMD's for political purposes.
     
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    And I provided the same link in which it is repeatedly referred to as carrier.

    It is an aircraft carrier by every definition of the term.

    Why do you keep lying and claiming that the US called hand grenades WMD's? And even if they did, thank you for confirming the logic behind the Russians insisting it is "cruiser", they are doing it for political purposes.
     
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    I agree there was a coup in Ukraine. But merely having a poster say the USA did it, does not prove we did it to Ukraine.

    Are we responding to Putin's threats or his to our threats? Trump is pulling out of Syria and Putin is very happy.
     
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    This amuses me.....New York will be returned as this delusional destroyer claims.....and Missouri according to @jeanette.....how does New York& Missouri have any connection to the Resource Federation?lol!!!
     
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    He is just trolling.
     
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    QUOTE:

    "Heavy aviation cruiser"
    " ..... could never be considered true aircraft carriers".
     
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    THE KIEV CLASS could never be consider true aircraft carriers.

    No wonder you’ve been leaving out that first two words of that sentence. How much is the Kremlin paying you per untruth you peddle?

    The Kuznetsov class are AIRCRAFT CARRIERS.
     
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    Yes. I have a Cabela's & Bass Pro Black credit card. So I'm good.
     

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