Whites OBJECTIVELY Have Less Rights than Minorities

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That's also not true. See, for example, Bates, T., & Robb, A. (2016, Impacts of Owner Race and Geographic Context on Access to Small-Business Financing. Economic Development Quarterly, 30(2), 159–170. https://doi.org/10.1177/0891242415620484):

    Multiple studies document both the scarcity of small-business financing in inner-city minority communities and the higher loan application rejection rates among minority business enterprises (MBEs), compared with equally creditworthy White-owned firms. When MBEs do receive bank financing, they get smaller loans than Whites. Two aspects of these findings are troublesome. First, urban MBEs are heavily concentrated geographically in minority communities, raising the issue of whether difficulties accessing financing reflect firm location, minority ownership, or both. Second, applicable studies rest on weak theoretical foundations. The authors’ findings suggest that banks engage in discriminatory practices limiting credit availability to MBEs. Controlling for risk factors, however, firm location in a minority or inner-city neighborhood has no apparent impact on loan availability or size. Owner race/ethnicity, in contrast, is important. Subtle processes discourage MBEs from seeking bank loans. Owner race and wealth both powerfully shape loan access: high wealth opens doors, minority ownership closes them.
     
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    You've already provided evidence that points to discrimination. That's the whole point! It was a strange thing to do, given your personal bias. I could only think it reflected an innocence of the statistical methods adopted.
     
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    Not if there is a handicapped person, then they have it over me
    Black people want safe places so they can be included because they have been excluded throughout history. How many white people want to be in a black dorm?
     
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    Black people get sent to prison for committing the same crime is as white people who don’t get sent to prison. That is a reality. And money plays into it
     
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    You should educate yourself ......you’re wrong
     
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    I’m sorry but that’s your brain fart, not mine.
     
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    So, in your mind "equality" = "revenge"?
     
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    Not too sure about that. I don't think you'd enjoy walking a mile in the shoes of black Americans even today. Of course, the last time Congress tried to overcompensate for such inequality they caused the Great Recession. Thanks Barney Frank.
     
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    I couldn't care less who uses it as a 'motto'.... it use humor appropriate to this particular office.

    SJW take that action on many subjects, and while I dislike them and their methods, every HUMAN is equal and should not have to earn 'acceptance'.
     
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    No I didn’t. Outside of the old tired excuse disparities in the criminal justice system that have been shown time and again to be because of factors not involving race. Exactly what evidence did they provide that the reason blacks within the same income level vomit a disproportionate amount of violent crime to their peers?
     
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    Dont get mad

    I just happen to see it a little differently than you

    I did not mean is was the social justice warriors official slogan

    But considering their techinques it could be
     
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    All three of those links refer to redlining. Which is patently absurd. Redlining is a dogwhistle. There’s no such thing as redlining and hasn’t been since the 1930s and 40s.

    Blacks, back then just like today, are less likely to have collateral, less likely to have good credit and are less likely to pay back a loan than their white counterparts. Moreover the houses that they want to get are in neighborhoods with vastly higher rates of property crime.

    So if you have two people in front of you. One of them has good credit, collateral and a good job to be able to pay back the loan while the second person does not. Also the first person is going to get a property in a neighborhood with low rates of property crime and the second individual in a neighborhood with high property crime.

    Are you going to give those two people the same amount of money at the same rate? Of course not. You would be a complete moron to do so.
     
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    Hahahaha now how did I know you'd deny discrimination is going on towards minorities. BTW...the links I provided weren't only for mortgages.
     
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    Although I’m thoroughly enjoying all the liberals admitting they have no problem with racism and discrimination against white people because they deserve it because they have the same color skin as people who discriminated against blacks years ago.
     
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    I don’t. It does happen. But it’s not institutional or systemic and it’s certainly not government sponsored and promoted like we have against white people.

    So again, if you don’t care about and even support government sponsored racism and discrimination against white people to make up for discrimination in years prior.. why should we care about implicit discrimination against blacks?
     
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    As we are enjoying your persecution complex.
     
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    Call it what you want. But you have no place to call others racist when you support racism and discrimination perpetrated against whites by our government under the guise of equality.
     
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    That you don't recognise that the piece is focused on aspects such as discrimination, despite the multiple quotes presented, beggars belief. There is absolutely no evidence in that piece which argues that blacks commit greater crime. Instead, it highlights both the importance of wealth and also discriminatory practices in the criminal justice system.

    Given the last sentence ("the disadvantages of being black or Hispanic compound the disadvantages of asset poverty"), you are deliberately misrepresenting the nature of their research.
     
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    As a result of it still happening, minority programs are needed. None of which discriminates against whites because whites have no problems getting loans. You know this. Stop being silly. It's a bad look.
     
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    Who did I call racist?

    Except racism towards whites only exists in your mind.
     
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    Again, you have already been presented with evidence that finds continued discriminatory practices. Bates, T., & Robb, A. (2016, Impacts of Owner Race and Geographic Context on Access to Small-Business Financing. Economic Development Quarterly, 30(2), 159–170. https://doi.org/10.1177/0891242415620484):

    Multiple studies document both the scarcity of small-business financing in inner-city minority communities and the higher loan application rejection rates among minority business enterprises (MBEs), compared with equally creditworthy White-owned firms. When MBEs do receive bank financing, they get smaller loans than Whites. Two aspects of these findings are troublesome. First, urban MBEs are heavily concentrated geographically in minority communities, raising the issue of whether difficulties accessing financing reflect firm location, minority ownership, or both. Second, applicable studies rest on weak theoretical foundations. The authors’ findings suggest that banks engage in discriminatory practices limiting credit availability to MBEs. Controlling for risk factors, however, firm location in a minority or inner-city neighborhood has no apparent impact on loan availability or size. Owner race/ethnicity, in contrast, is important. Subtle processes discourage MBEs from seeking bank loans. Owner race and wealth both powerfully shape loan access: high wealth opens doors, minority ownership closes them.

    A bit of honesty would be splendid!
     
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    Liberals choose to believe bankers wont lend to people in the hood because they just dont like black people

    Which is absurd
     
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    False you’re conflating their research with their hypothesis on the explanation of their research.

    Their research is the empirical data which they gathered and as they stated they found that every level of income blacks are more likely to be convicted of a crime than their peers.

    Then to explain that empirical data they found, they hypothesize that the reason for this occurring is racism against blacks. But I don’t care about their hypothesis that they provide with literally nothing to justify it. I care about the research they did and empirical data they found. Their opinions are of no value to me.
     
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    Without the access to full study and knowing the “subtle processes” they mention but don’t explain it’s an impossibility to speak intelligently on that study. And unless you can do so you can’t either.
     
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