Who Here Are Old Enough to Remember Back Alley Abortions?

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  1. Sadanie

    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A good beginning to "meet in the middle" would be for you not to insult everyone who is pro-choice, and realize that being pro-choice doesn't mean being pro-abortion, but means being pro letting the woman decide what is best for her AND for the potential child. . .a LONG TIME before the fetus becomes a child.

    Your comment of calling a woman a whore are obviously a very strong statement that you will NEVER be able to stretch your mind far enough to afford the person who is the most impacted by an unwanted pregnancy make the decision GOD gives her the free will to make.

    Who are you to take over for God?
     
  2. injest

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    Who are YOU? cause you want to do the exact same thing...and HOW FUNNY that you only noticed the insults I gave to the anti abortion side...

    proof you only see what you want to see.

    but then on the other thread there I see you aren't being overly truthful in THIS thread and can dismiss you as just another poster that will say anything to try to 'win' a point.
     
  3. injest

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    oh I've been called worst than THAT...and by people I actually CARED about..

    :date:

    see, I DO believe in right...and wrong.

    I DO believe in good...and evil.
     
  4. injest

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    how very very sad...so for you, a woman's worth is in how attractive she is to men...have ya never seen the local news when they show the prostitutes they busted? Men will have sex with ANYONE that will open their legs.

    but it does say so much about the liberals attitude about sex...it isn't an expression of love or affection...nope it's validation. Libs teach little girls that they are only 'pretty' or valuable if a boy will hump her.

    that's SOOO empowering, I'm sure..
     
  5. Bowerbird

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    Ah! Ad Hominems = the last refuge of those who are losing a debate
     
  6. Makedde

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    Most women practice SAFE sex. That is, they are on the pill and they make sure condoms are use. But they still get pregnant. What lifers want is for women to NEVER have sex unless they want a baby.

    I was a fetus, and my mother spoke for me. If I ever become pregnant, I will speak for my fetus, and I will decide if I have a baby, not some anti abortionist hell bent on punishing women. (and that is not directed at you, but at the people - mainly men - running anti abortion groups)
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    The reality is that a lot of 'good Catholic girls' ARE having sex.
     
  8. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    So now we finally see your colors.

    In your opinion, all women who have abortions are sluts/whores, is that right?
    Well, that's an awful lot of women.
     
  9. reality01

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    If the condom is correctly used there will be no pregnancy (and no transmitted disease, such as HIV, hepatitis, syphilis ...).
    Also, there are only three days monthly when a woman will get pregnant for sure if she has unprotected sex (so that some abstinence around/over that period may help too).
    Therefore, all women must stop considering abortion as a contraceptive method!

    We do not want to punish women but it seems that they worry too much for their sexual activity to not be restricted if abortion will become illegal (most of them using sex for gaining money, material things or power and control, with or without pleasure).

    Not only regarding abortion, but also regarding the human behavior generally, our lack of education is the main cause of all bad things.
     
  10. prometeus

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    That is unfortunate. Was it deserved?

    Ah, but not all people who care really care.

    I never doubted that, at least in what you perceive to be right and wrong. The bad part is that you believe that everyone should abide by the same.

    See above.
     
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    You have to be in the right ivory tower, however, and be a passionless computer. I don't think those are fertile, though, so why should they bother?
     
  12. Whaler17

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    TYpical lefty moonbat response :crazy: :drool:
     
  13. churchmouse

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    The fact is that this for the most part is myth and rarely happened. Planned Parenthood even states that before Roe…most abortions were done in doctors offices.
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    Good, glad you think so

    Unfortunately you are wrong - and yes I remember the attempted prosecutions again Dr Baylliss here in Queensland quite well. Especially as a member of my family was working just down the road at Royal Women's Hospital.

    He as not called "butcher Bayliss" for nothing

    And all of those who think that choosing to have an abortion is "easy" ask yourselves how desperate must you be to risk that degree of harm?
     
  15. Bowerbird

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    Oh! Dear!

    Do you not have Sexual Health practitioners in the US to teach you about this sort of thing? Yes they are effective if used not just correctly but PERFECTLY - and even then there are failures

    Key Statistics:

    In a recent well-controlled randomized clinical trial of monogamous couples using latex male condoms for contraception over six months, the pregnancy rate during “typical use” was reported at 6.3%, with a 1.1% pregnancy rate during “consistent use.”
    As condom experience and facility in use of condoms increases in couples using condoms as their primary method of birth control, unintended pregnancies decrease.
    The combined method failure rate (slippage plus breakage) of condoms is estimated at 1.6%–3.6%.

    http://www.sexedlibrary.org/index.cfm?pageId=788
     
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    No people know the facts. You learn about them multiple times in school.

    People are just ignorant and stupid.
     
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    “It’s not what he doesn’t know that bothers me. It’s what he knows for sure that just ain’t so.”--Will Rogers
     
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    There's awful, mun! Long live the Extra-Terrestrial computers, and long may they force life on us!
     
  19. churchmouse

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    Easy? You are looking at someone who did kill her unborn child…so don't tell me about the face of abortion and its after affects.

    And know this…there are no statistics that are accurate. None. They guess. The media, PP, NOW in our country try to hide the evil side. And women suffer silently over the actions they did. Abortion is easy for some women…especially the ones who had abortions in the early years. Science was not outspoken on this and much has been learned through science about the unborn and fetal development. If you want to know facts today….you seek them on your own…PP will not inform you of the truth. They fight giving woman sonograms…because the more women who might see the face of that which they are killing…the less money they make…and they make billions.

    WE can not support abortions to legality simply because a few women might try to harm themselves… and as I said…PP stated in printed brochures that prior to 1973 women had abortions in credible doctors offices.

    Abortion is an easy decision for some…not all care that they are killing and I believe through my work and what women tell me and ask…they do not know about fetal development. They do not know that the heart starts beating around 22 days after conception. The PP side wants them to think its just a glob of cells. its way more than that…and most women abort after the heart starts beating.
     
  20. PatriotNews

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    All the more reason to push responsible behavior and self control vs. the "they're gonna do it anyway" mentality. I know of only one woman who got pregnant while still a virgin and that was two thousand years ago. I don't think it has happened since. Question, why did the study only use monogamous couples? Doesn't birth control work on swingers?
     
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    Well it seems as though you just contradicted yourself. Why would they prosecute or attempt to prosecute a doctor if back ally Ogres were performing abortions and not doctors?
     
  22. injest

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    nope, but Sanwhatever, is bragging about how promiscious her little Catholic school classmates were in one thread, then coming in here and bemoaning the poor dears as being misled ingenues that fell one time in a sexual emergency.

    so yeah, THIS woman was/is a slut as protrayed in the two threads.
     
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    Not everyone had access to the one doctor
     
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    Unfortunately, YES, you are very right, people seem to be too ignorant/stupid to care, also according with this short article about the meaning of life, an abortion being directly related with the insufficient education and poverty (the main restrictions for human reproduction).
     
  25. Bowerbird

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    It's a blog

    Someone, somewhere who has voiced an opinion - big whoop


    It is EASY (and a little lazy) to just categorise all women having abortions as "stupid" or "sluts" when the truth is many are women with tertiary educations, good jobs, married and in a stable relationship

    Are they "stupid sluts"?
     

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